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Visual Het pieds

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  • 02-28-2020, 10:10 PM
    Mikeshrews1
    Visual Het pieds
    Can someone explain to me het pied that look pied? Is there a way to tell if one of these is het or visual?
  • 02-29-2020, 09:28 AM
    Lord Sorril
    Re: Visual Het pieds
    I think you may be referring to a Ringer which has an orange/white ring/marking around section(s) of the body--often near the tail (see orange section pictured). This marking can be *indicative* of being Het Pied--However, an indicator is not a guarantee and there are other genes which can also create ringers.

    https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...atermarked.jpg


    A snake that is visual pied (HO instead of Het) will usually be much more obvious. However, I have seen a pied ball python with no white or ringers--so each will have to evaluated on a case-by-case basis.

    https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...atermarked.jpg

    As for black 'train track' marks pictured below are also suggestive of being Het Pied. But, definitely just a clue, not a guarantee. Train track markings do not have to be present in Het or Visual pieds, but, sometimes they are. Orange Dream (not Pied) pictured for example.

    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...om/U5BxM61.jpg


    :)
  • 02-29-2020, 06:06 PM
    Mikeshrews1
    Re: Visual Het pieds
  • 02-29-2020, 06:43 PM
    Lord Sorril
    Both linked are Het Pied. You are seeing the Pied gene interact with the Champagne gene.

    CV Exotics is a reputable breeder---you can trust that they are giving you the right info. :)
  • 03-01-2020, 06:28 PM
    Mikeshrews1
    Re: Visual Het pieds
    I don’t doubt they can be trusted. I’m more interested in if someone were to hatch these, how could they tell wether they were het pied or pied?
  • 03-01-2020, 07:07 PM
    Lord Sorril
    Re: Visual Het pieds
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mikeshrews1 View Post
    I don’t doubt they can be trusted. I’m more interested in if someone were to hatch these, how could they tell wether they were het pied or pied?

    I'm told that a Champagne Pied is an all white snake and since there are easier ways to make all white snakes without using a homozygous recessive + a co-dominant gene...they are uncommon. :)
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