I think my snake loves me

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Originally Posted by Spaniard

Thats right any creature with a heart has the capability to love....here i was thinking you needed a brain capable of rational thought...can I switch my vote?

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Jane Goodall might disagree with that statement.

Chimps have a much more developed brain than snakes.

So, you are saying that love, whatever that term may mean or whatever you think it means, is incapable of emerging from any lower level functioning area of the brain. Or if you prefer Freudian terms, love can only spring from the Ego. I disagree.

I think the main problem with this discussion, other than the sophomoric glee people are extracting from their feelings of supposed superiority to others, is that the word love is by far the most overly used word in the English language. Do I think a snake is capable of love like romantic love? Of course not. Do I think a snake is capable of love like the love that The Christ or The Buddha had for the world? Absolutely not. Do I even think that a snake can feel empathy? Again, no. But can a snake feel safe, secure, emboldened, and not threatened by another being living in close proximity to it? Yes, I do. And those feelings are some of the feelings that I ascribe to the word love.

The idea of love encompasses many things. To extract love of all but its logical and emotional elements is to diminish it.

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Originally Posted by RWillinnable

Jane Goodall might disagree with that statement.

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wow i bet you thought you were clever with that one.
guys, this isnt a debate
litterally, snakes have no mental capacity for complex emotions like love. if they did LOVE you, wouldn't they, you know.. show it? like give you 'kisses' and WANT to be held, nosing around you isnt wanting to be held, its investigation for food, escape, or warmth.

comparing chimps with snakes is just rediculous.
my car loves me.
cars cant love!
i'll bet all the horse owners out here disagree
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that's pretty much the comparison you made with snakes and chimps. i honestly do not see us sharing 98% of our dna with snakes, do you?

Ok, how is a snake going to love, when it probably doesn't even recognize you?

SNAKES CAN'T LOVE. Period.

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Originally Posted by bpkid

Ok, how is a snake going to love, when it probably doesn't even recognize you?

SNAKES CAN'T LOVE. Period.

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and for those of you that want to question this, seriously, define love and then tell me if snakes fit the catagories. first and fore most would be do they defend their young AFTER they lay eggs, if they are the egg laying type. crocs/alligators do i believe, but do they also feel the need to seek comfort with other members of their species? being companion, offspring, or pack member? alright then.

Cased closed, thank you Shhhli. Lol.

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Originally Posted by RWillinnable

So, you are saying that love, whatever that term may mean or whatever you think it means, is incapable of emerging from any lower level functioning area of the brain. Or if you prefer Freudian terms, love can only spring from the Ego. I disagree.

I think the main problem with this discussion, other than the sophomoric glee people are extracting from their feelings of supposed superiority to others, is that the word love is by far the most overly used word in the English language. Do I think a snake is capable of love like romantic love? Of course not. Do I think a snake is capable of love like the love that The Christ or The Buddha had for the world? Absolutely not. Do I even think that a snake can feel empathy? Again, no. But can a snake feel safe, secure, emboldened, and not threatened by another being living in close proximity to it? Yes, I do. And those feelings are some of the feelings that I ascribe to the word love.

The idea of love encompasses many things. To extract love of all but its logical and emotional elements is to diminish it.

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Well done. *shakes hand*

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Originally Posted by bpkid

Ok, how is a snake going to love, when it probably doesn't even recognize you?

SNAKES CAN'T LOVE. Period.

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I thought they could use scent to identify?

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Originally Posted by Kilo

I thought they could use scent to identify?

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Food. They can identify anything warm. They can't just see you and say "hey, its my owner!!!"

I think people just like to make snakes into people and mammals. They can't get over that they basically have no feelings.

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Originally Posted by bpkid

Cased closed, thank you Shhhli. Lol.

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