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Mystery Clutch - HELP!

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  • 09-20-2019, 05:40 PM
    Reposado
    Mystery Clutch - HELP!
    So... I got this snake. Less than 2 months later she laid 6 eggs. These are the first four out of their eggs. The person I got her from swears he never paired her and he got her when she was 600 grams. She was 1800 grams when she came to me. I didn't pair her with anything. She's a black pastel, pastel, spider. What the heck are they? Could this be a partho clutch and she's het clown and maybe some other stuff? I'm waiting on 2 more to come out. All pipped well.

    I'll update when the last are out and again after they shed.

    https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...7622_thumb.jpg

    https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...3936_thumb.jpg

    https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...4093_thumb.jpg

    Mom
    https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...59_1_thumb.jpg
  • 09-20-2019, 06:00 PM
    Bogertophis
    How long did the previous owner have her? from what age to what age? Not speaking for BPs specifically, but other snakes can mate & retain fertility for a year
    & some for several years+. It's seems unlikely to be a "partho clutch" because typically there is a high likelihood of defects with many that cannot survive. These
    look awfully healthy & normal for that to be the case. I'd guess that her first owner tried pairing her (at about 500-600 grams) & since she was too young/small,
    nothing happened until she grew & was now physically able to give them a go? Just my guess though? Others will have to help with morphs, I don't breed BPs,
    but they're interesting for sure...I assume you're elated? ;)
  • 09-20-2019, 07:36 PM
    Reposado
    He bought her when she was about 18 months old. She's 3 years old now. I was planning on pairing her this fall to a mystic potion. I'm totally ecstatic.
  • 09-20-2019, 07:48 PM
    Bogertophis
    Re: Mystery Clutch - HELP!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Reposado View Post
    He bought her when she was about 18 months old. She's 3 years old now. I was planning on pairing her this fall to a mystic potion. I'm totally ecstatic.

    So when he bought her she was old enough or big enough that the original owner may have co-habbed her with one or more males, maybe thinking it was OK,

    maybe just to see what happens or thinking all were the same gender, or not knowing it wasn't a good idea to house together? One way or another, a male got

    the job done, but her body wasn't ready yet, until now. Heck of a surprise, eh? :D FYI, I had a corn snake many years ago that laid good eggs for FIVE years total

    after one mating...:rolleyes: The downside is that snakes that reproduce when they're still too young & growing may have a shortened life, as breeding takes quite the

    toll on their body, especially immature snakes. If you like what she has produced (lol) you'd probably be wise to hold-back at least one offspring, and don't let it

    breed so young. The snakes I've bred have never been under 4 years old (not BPs, but same idea).
  • 09-21-2019, 12:24 PM
    Alexiel03
    Re: Mystery Clutch - HELP!
    They kinda look like they might have leopard in them [emoji50] they're gorgeous!

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  • 09-21-2019, 01:50 PM
    Alexiel03
    Re: Mystery Clutch - HELP!
    Im almost 100% positive they are leopard bumble bees (leopard pastel spider) at the very least. And that other baby is a leopard spider

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  • 09-21-2019, 04:26 PM
    Reposado
    Re: Mystery Clutch - HELP!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Alexiel03 View Post
    Im almost 100% positive they are leopard bumble bees (leopard pastel spider) at the very least. And that other baby is a leopard spider

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    I'm thinking pinstripe too, especially with the one with finer markings.

    This is snake #5. Waiting on one more to come out

    https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...2429_thumb.jpg
  • 09-21-2019, 08:24 PM
    Valyndris
    Such a cute mystery! It's crazy how snakes can hold back sperm and decide when they want to lay eggs. :)
  • 09-21-2019, 08:51 PM
    303_enfield
    I'd say you hit the jackpot. Your snake just paid for herself. I really like the dark leopard!
  • 09-24-2019, 12:26 PM
    Reposado
    All out, group shot.
    https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...utch_thumb.jpg

    I'm thinking Leopard Pastel was the daddy, though Leopard Pastel Clown Spider looks a LOT like a couple of these. The head stamps are really throwing me off.
    http://www.worldofballpythons.com/mo...-pastel-spider
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