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  • 07-02-2006, 11:10 AM
    frankykeno
    Rats - Colors and Coat Markings
    Well Jamie way easier to just put up pics then explain on the phone what markings and so forth rats come in LOL. Anyone else that has other colors/markings please feel free to add to this thread. Since a lot of us breed rats and enjoy the varied results (other than just for feeding) it might be a nice bit of information.

    This is Midnite. Black Blazed Face Berkshire Female Breeder. There is some concern that blaze faced and husky marked rats can carry the gene for megacolon so avoid breeding them to high white rats. So far in multiple breedings against my black and white hooded male I've seen no incidence of megacolon at all in the offspring.
    http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...eFeederRat.jpg

    Belly markings.
    http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...shireBelly.jpg

    This is a Black/White Husky marked young female feeder rat. See how the white goes up on the sides and legs more than in the Berkshire but much less than in a Hooded (which is a hood of color plus a stripe of color down the spine).
    http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...yFeederRat.jpg

    This is HoneyChild on the left, a Beige Hooded Female and Jet on the right, an almost pure black Female. Just for size comparison Jamie...HoneyChild is a mature breeder female, Jet is a 2 to 3 month old female that's not large enough yet for her first breeding.
    http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...s/HCandJet.jpg

    This is Jet's belly. Her only marking is this little white snip so I'm not even sure what to call this marking LOL.
    http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...lishFemale.jpg

    This is an seal point siamese. See the brownish area on the nose.
    http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...meseFemale.jpg

    This is Casanova, our male stud rat. He's a pretty typical Black & White Hooded. He does throw babies with almost perfect hoods and stripes though sometimes. He's a lot bigger now but didn't want to come out and get pics today as he's busy with his ladies LOL.
    http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...reederMale.jpg

    All the picking the right rats and feeding/caring for them well gets you this....:)
    http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...withlitter.jpg

    Basically Jamie you want to look for rats like you would look for a healthy puppy or kitten. Eyes bright and clear, no ear or nose discharge, no messy butts. Fur shiney and guard hairs not all fluffed up. No sneezing or wheezing. Teeth grinding is okay...that's called bruxing and means the rat is happy to meet you! LOL No hunching over, no swelled belly, no sores on the feet or tail. Try to find young rats that are reasonably okay being handled (they will be nervous but that's okay...as long as they aren't aggressive). There you go...Rat Buying 101. LOL
  • 07-02-2006, 11:22 AM
    jglass38
    Re: Rats - Colors and Coat Markings
    Awesome!! Thanks Jo!!
  • 07-02-2006, 12:12 PM
    cassandra
    Re: Rats - Colors and Coat Markings
    They're so sweet! Thanks for sharing your perma-ratties with us. =)
  • 07-02-2006, 12:24 PM
    frankykeno
    Re: Rats - Colors and Coat Markings
    Thanks Jamie and Cass. Some of the examples were from my feeder bins as I don't have adult breeders in those specific colors or markings. I recently saw an American Blue male rat in a feeder tank at the pet store but the pet store was considering keeping it back for future breeding...dang it all! I've always wanted a blue! I also don't have any dumbo eared rats so that's something I'm keeping an eye open for. Jet is the closest we come to breeding a fully black, nice shiney coated rat. Mike really likes the look of those.

    I love the first pic. Midnite's blaze is a bit off center so she sort of has this permanent goofy look LOL. She's also the wierdo rat that stockpiles lab block and sits on it so none of the other rats can figure out where it went. She's a hoot and was originally part of Beth's science fair project on rat nutrition and growth rates.

    I figure if you breed rats you may as well have some fun with it LOL.
  • 07-02-2006, 12:35 PM
    kavmon
    Re: Rats - Colors and Coat Markings
    you got it going on with the rat morphs jo! sooner or later i'm going to have to get into rat breeding, not my thing but it does have alot of pros with snake care/breeding.:snake:


    vaughn
  • 07-02-2006, 12:45 PM
    frankykeno
    Re: Rats - Colors and Coat Markings
    Oh yep Vaughn I'm the Rat Morph Queen...hahahahahahaha! Actually there's tons of funky colors if you look at those fancy rat breeders sites. Amazing really but since they do make spectacular pets as well as great feeders, I can see why folks would selective breed for certain coat colors/patterns/types.

    I love breeding my own feeders! Other than the whole "I'm a frustrated farmer" issue, I love knowing exactly the quality my snakes are fed, the convenience of tailoring my feeder sizes exactly to each snake, the money savings over buying live locally and heck I actually like rats and seeing what babies pop out of different pairings so it's a good excuse to have a bunch of them around LOL.

    Once I've joined our local Herp Society I may see if it's worthwhile expanding my rat colony and breeding a bit for sales locally. I don't want to get into it big time but since I enjoy it so much I wouldn't mind making a few bucks here or there and lord knows I usually have enough spare rats around anyways even with the small colony I have now.
  • 07-02-2006, 01:07 PM
    jglass38
    Re: Rats - Colors and Coat Markings
    Good stuff for sure! My fiance managed to pick up a male and a couple females. She has already named them Tommy Lee and Pam 1 & 2. :)

    I will post some pics tonight when they are settled of them and my crafty craftsmanship that went into the new rat enclosures! Don't worry I havent gone to the dark side yet and started measuring holes or anything like that!
  • 07-02-2006, 01:14 PM
    kavmon
    Re: Rats - Colors and Coat Markings
    [QUOTE=jglass38]Good stuff for sure! My fiance managed to pick up a male and a couple females. She has already named them Tommy Lee and Pam 1 & 2. :)

    you going to sell videos of them breeding? lol, i don't even want to think what you, a webcam, and a bunch of rats could do! :rat:


    vaughn
  • 07-02-2006, 01:15 PM
    jglass38
    Re: Rats - Colors and Coat Markings
    [QUOTE=kavmon]
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jglass38
    Good stuff for sure! My fiance managed to pick up a male and a couple females. She has already named them Tommy Lee and Pam 1 & 2. :)

    you going to sell videos of them breeding? lol, i don't even want to think what you, a webcam, and a bunch of rats could do! :rat:


    vaughn

    I hadn't thought of that, but its a good idea!! A little cheesy 70s porn music and I think ill be the next Girls Gone Wild guy...Rats gone crazy!
  • 07-02-2006, 01:54 PM
    frankykeno
    Re: Rats - Colors and Coat Markings
    Hmmm how about Pamela and Heather since they were both blondes married to Tommy Lee LOL. And btw Vaughn if you ever saw rats spend errrr "quality time together" you'd be impressed! LMAO
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