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Making a BEL.

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  • 03-23-2019, 03:21 PM
    ShawarmaPoutine
    Making a BEL.
    Hello y'all. From what you have bred, seen, heard or learnt, what is the best pairing to produce a Blue Eyed Leucistic noodle. What combo makes the healthiest, whitest (not pinkish nor greyish) blue-eyed snakes?
  • 03-23-2019, 06:33 PM
    Alter-Echo
    Mojave x lesser makes very white snakes that usually don't have eye issues.
  • 03-23-2019, 06:39 PM
    ShawarmaPoutine
    Re: Making a BEL.
    What would be next to pair with a butter female? cuz that's what I have lol. Also, I love the Lesser gene way more than butter. Have we reached a consensus if they're the same thing? (like CG & Banana)
  • 03-23-2019, 07:25 PM
    Stewart_Reptiles
    Lesser and butter are the same just a different line, I don't recommend lesser x butter unless you like bug eye snake no one will buy.

    Whether you have a butter or a lesser I would highly recommend a mojave to prevent that.
  • 03-23-2019, 07:45 PM
    ShawarmaPoutine
    Re: Making a BEL.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Deborah View Post
    Lesser and butter are the same just a different line, I don't recommend lesser x butter unless you like bug eye snake no one will buy.

    Whether you have a butter or a lesser I would highly recommend a mojave to prevent that.

    Thanks Deborah, that's exactly the kind of advice I was looking for. would you say that only Mojave x Mojave will make will give a BEL a grayish tone?
  • 03-23-2019, 07:51 PM
    Stewart_Reptiles
    Re: Making a BEL.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ShawarmaPoutine View Post
    Thanks Deborah, that's exactly the kind of advice I was looking for. would you say that only Mojave x Mojave will make will give a BEL a grayish tone?

    Yes Super Mojave do make a BEL however they have a very dirty head if you make a Hypo Super Mojave the head is less dirty but it's still not a pure white snake so Mojave x Lesser or Mojave Butter will be your best option unless of course you want to go with Super Russo but Russo on their own are not that great of a mutation compare to Lesser or Mojave.
  • 03-24-2019, 12:13 AM
    ShawarmaPoutine
    Re: Making a BEL.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Deborah View Post
    Yes Super Mojave do make a BEL however they have a very dirty head if you make a Hypo Super Mojave the head is less dirty but it's still not a pure white snake so Mojave x Lesser or Mojave Butter will be your best option unless of course you want to go with Super Russo but Russo on their own are not that great of a mutation compare to Lesser or Mojave.

    Thoughts about breeding a super mojave (BEL) x Butter and therefore increasing the normal of BELs in the clutch (50% of clutch)? I am gonna assume that a super Mojave BEL will be cheaper because of the "dirty head" compared to any other BELs.
  • 03-24-2019, 02:51 AM
    Danger noodles
    Re: Making a BEL.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ShawarmaPoutine View Post
    Thoughts about breeding a super mojave (BEL) x Butter and therefore increasing the normal of BELs in the clutch (50% of clutch)? I am gonna assume that a super Mojave BEL will be cheaper because of the "dirty head" compared to any other BELs.

    Super Mojave’s cost more than a mojave. And one of them are to expensive to buy something u don’t really like to begin with. Also if breeding I’d not worry about the price as much as getting a great quality snake. U get out what u put in. Cheap out and u will not have the top of the line looking snakes.
  • 03-24-2019, 03:04 AM
    ShawarmaPoutine
    Re: Making a BEL.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Danger noodles View Post
    Super Mojave’s cost more than a mojave. And one of them are to expensive to buy something u don’t really like to begin with. Also if breeding I’d not worry about the price as much as getting a great quality snake. U get out what u put in. Cheap out and u will not have the top of the line looking snakes.

    I know quality of the pairs is important. How important though? Does it determine what the offspring look like 50% of the time? 70%?
  • 03-24-2019, 04:56 PM
    ShawarmaPoutine
    Re: Making a BEL.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Deborah View Post
    Yes Super Mojave do make a BEL however they have a very dirty head if you make a Hypo Super Mojave the head is less dirty but it's still not a pure white snake so Mojave x Lesser or Mojave Butter will be your best option unless of course you want to go with Super Russo but Russo on their own are not that great of a mutation compare to Lesser or Mojave.

    Deborah, does butter x butter also make BELs with bug eyes?
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