Pairing BEL with Banana glow..

What would The off-spring be of this combo?

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I'm assuming you mean either banana or coral glow to a BEL complex animal.

Depending on the BEL it would be one of the two BEL genes either by itself or crossed with banana/coral glow.

So a Mojave/Lesser BEL crossed to a Banana would yield a 25% chance of each combo below:

Lesser

Mojave

Banana Lesser

Banana Mojave


But that would change depending on what two genes made the BEL. I say that because these genes:

Bamboo,
Butter/Lesser (platinum),
Mojave,
Russo,
Phantom,
Mystic,
Mocha,
and Special

will all make a BEL when combined in almost* any combination.

Some look better than others, (Mojave/Lesser), and some have pattern and are not quite BEL's such as Mystic Potion or Crystal.

But there is a lot that could happen depending on the BEL variety.

Does that answer your question? Or was I too confusing? Cause I know it's a lot to take in.

No it was very helpful.
Having no idea what the HET is for each parent I guess there's really no way of knowing what The offspring could look like
Could be like a box of chocolates huh

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Originally Posted by RXLReptiles

I'm assuming you mean either banana or coral glow to a BEL complex animal.

Depending on the BEL it would be one of the two BEL genes either by itself or crossed with banana/coral glow.

So a Mojave/Lesser BEL crossed to a Banana would yield a 25% chance of each combo below:

Lesser

Mojave

Banana Lesser

Banana Mojave


But that would change depending on what two genes made the BEL. I say that because these genes:

Bamboo,
Butter/Lesser (platinum),
Mojave,
Russo,
Phantom,
Mystic,
Mocha,
and Special

will all make a BEL when combined in almost* any combination.

Some look better than others, (Mojave/Lesser), and some have pattern and are not quite BEL's such as Mystic Potion or Crystal.

But there is a lot that could happen depending on the BEL variety.

Does that answer your question? Or was I too confusing? Cause I know it's a lot to take in.

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Originally Posted by Jellybeans

Having no idea what the HET is for each parent

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None of the genes you are asking about are recessive so there is no het in question, they either are or they are not

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Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl

None of the genes you are asking about are recessive so there is no het in question, they either are or they are not

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I think what jellybeans is referring to is the individual co-doms that make up the BEL complex animal, on a technicality co-doms are technically "hets" for the super form, in that they are a single copy of a gene. And since BEL complex animals are an allelic combo, they do require 2 "hets" to create the homozygous BEL super form.

Depends on the Bel https://www.morphmarket.com/c/reptil...ic-calculator/

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Originally Posted by RXLReptiles

I think what jellybeans is referring to is the individual co-doms that make up the BEL complex animal, on a technicality co-doms are technically "hets" for the super form, in that they are a single copy of a gene. And since BEL complex animals are an allelic combo, they do require 2 "hets" to create the homozygous BEL super form.

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Jellybeans is 100% correct.

The technicality is whether one uses standard genetics definitions or the corrupt herper definitions.

In standard genetics, a homozygous animal has a homozygous gene pair--a gene pair made up of two copies of the same gene, and a heterozygous ("het") animal has a heterozygous gene pair--a gene pair made up of two different genes. For example, a normal gene and an albino gene, a pinstripe gene and a normal gene and a lesser gene and a mojave gene are heterozygous gene pairs.

In the herper genetics definition a heterozygous gene pair is also made up of two different genes, but they are a normal gene and a recessive mutant gene. By this definition only the normal gene and the albino gene make a heterozygous gene pair.

For what it's worth, the standard genetics definitions are easier to use than the herper definitions.

The simplest het lesser ball python has a lesser gene paired with the corresponding normal gene. Crossing two of these het lessers is one way to produce a homozygous (AKA super) lesser ball python. There are other ways, such as crossing two homozygous lessers. And crossing a homozygous lesser to a homozygous mojave is one way to produce a BEL that is heterozygous because the gene pair is made up of a lesser gene and a mojave gene.

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Originally Posted by paulh

Jellybeans is 100% correct.

The technicality is whether one uses standard genetics definitions or the corrupt herper definitions.

In standard genetics, a homozygous animal has a homozygous gene pair--a gene pair made up of two copies of the same gene, and a heterozygous ("het") animal has a heterozygous gene pair--a gene pair made up of two different genes. For example, a normal gene and an albino gene, a pinstripe gene and a normal gene and a lesser gene and a mojave gene are heterozygous gene pairs.

In the herper genetics definition a heterozygous gene pair is also made up of two different genes, but they are a normal gene and a recessive mutant gene. By this definition only the normal gene and the albino gene make a heterozygous gene pair.

For what it's worth, the standard genetics definitions are easier to use than the herper definitions.

The simplest het lesser ball python has a lesser gene paired with the corresponding normal gene. Crossing two of these het lessers is one way to produce a homozygous (AKA super) lesser ball python. There are other ways, such as crossing two homozygous lessers. And crossing a homozygous lesser to a homozygous mojave is one way to produce a BEL that is heterozygous because the gene pair is made up of a lesser gene and a mojave gene.

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I think I need to take a class on this. Lol

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Originally Posted by paulh

Jellybeans is 100% correct.

The technicality is whether one uses standard genetics definitions or the corrupt herper definitions.

In standard genetics, a homozygous animal has a homozygous gene pair--a gene pair made up of two copies of the same gene, and a heterozygous ("het") animal has a heterozygous gene pair--a gene pair made up of two different genes. For example, a normal gene and an albino gene, a pinstripe gene and a normal gene and a lesser gene and a mojave gene are heterozygous gene pairs.

In the herper genetics definition a heterozygous gene pair is also made up of two different genes, but they are a normal gene and a recessive mutant gene. By this definition only the normal gene and the albino gene make a heterozygous gene pair.

For what it's worth, the standard genetics definitions are easier to use than the herper definitions.

The simplest het lesser ball python has a lesser gene paired with the corresponding normal gene. Crossing two of these het lessers is one way to produce a homozygous (AKA super) lesser ball python. There are other ways, such as crossing two homozygous lessers. And crossing a homozygous lesser to a homozygous mojave is one way to produce a BEL that is heterozygous because the gene pair is made up of a lesser gene and a mojave gene.

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Yes correct on the scientific and technical side.
Problem is that I am tired of seeing idiots selling normals claiming they are HET dom/co-dom gene. Seems to be a growing problem.

Yes. I agree

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Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl

Yes correct on the scientific and technical side.
Problem is that I am tired of seeing idiots selling normals claiming they are HET dom/co-dom gene. Seems to be a growing problem.

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