ASF Tell ALLS... Finally decided to reveal to my BP.net brothers and sisters....

can some one give me a website for the food/bedding?

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Originally Posted by Danounet

Is this the Bedding you were using Mike?

http://www.suncoastbedding.com/content.aspx?id=204

Just making sure I'll find the right one when I go buy it. :)

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yep :)

There are a few brands that are similar... and the store I use does not always have the suncoast bedding in stock... but it is hands down the best value I have found so far.

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Originally Posted by tiexecutioner

can some one give me a website for the food/bedding?

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Stay away from pine its not good for the rats !

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Originally Posted by Haydenphoto

Stay away from pine its not good for the rats !

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Please read and research. there is nothing wrong with using kiln dried pine.

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Originally Posted by sweety314

I'd have to disagree. I'm in Oregon and I found out that "Country Acres" is indeed a Purina product. It's just that the 16% hog feed has been renamed Sow and Pig Grower ( at least in THIS distribution area.)

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That very well could be true. Customer service answers vary so much anyways. When I called about the specific brand Mike mentioned, they said it was only available in the southeastern US. So, it is likely they slap a different name on it when selling to other locations.

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Originally Posted by Mike Cavanaugh

Please read and research. there is nothing wrong with using kiln dried pine.

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True just make sure its kiln dried :)

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Originally Posted by Haydenphoto

True just make sure its kiln dried :)

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I suppose it depends on the individual person's idea of "wrong". No one can deny that pine does adversly effect liver tissue, enzymes and respiratory health. However, not everyone sees eye to eye on how detrimental those effects are on the health and quality of life of rats.

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Originally Posted by Haydenphoto

Stay away from pine its not good for the rats !

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Originally Posted by Mike Cavanaugh

Please read and research. there is nothing wrong with using kiln dried pine.

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My question is, if the snakes eat the ASF (or any other rodent) while they still have pine in their furs. Does that harm the snake?

I haven't seen any papers on what harmful effects pine has on snakes. I've seen it repeated many times that the caustic phenols and oils from CEDAR are an irritant to their skin and can be toxic, but I also havent spent time looking for the origin of the idea.

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Originally Posted by Danounet

My question is, if the snakes eat the ASF (or any other rodent) while they still have pine in their furs. Does that harm the snake?

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I say no way. Don't ever underestimate the power of a snakes digestive system.