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  • 11-02-2019, 02:31 PM
    Godzilla78
    Re: Welp! This ain't good! Python found wrapped around dead woman neck in house w/ 14
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ax01 View Post
    yes, we should wait for the autopsy. the other part that worries me is that she had 140 snakes and how the media and public will react to that fact. a breeder can easily have that many snakes and even a keeper w/ a few racks. she could easily look like a crazy person or hoarder to those outside the community. i can totally see it play it out on the news like how the authorities remove a large cache of guns from someone's house during a bust and then lay it all out for the cameras, except in this instance it would be snakes. then someone or some group would be like "you can't have big snakes" or "you can't have more than one snake!" or "why do u even need a snake?!"

    Well said. When my wife tells people I breed ball pythons and have over 50 in our house, they look astonished, like, “how do you sleep?” Hahaha, I get bit at least once a week handling the fiesta hatchlings and I don’t even blink, it’s pathetic, much better than getting hit by a rat with huge incisors!
    I have only been both twice by adults, and it was a feeding accident, not defensive.

    As far as giant constrictors, I would usually (most of them) handle alone, BUT...
    If I kept a snake over 50 pounds, I would be extra cautious, even though I’m 6’1” 200 lbs. they are insanely powerful as most of us know.


    Kaos Balls
  • 11-02-2019, 02:35 PM
    Godzilla78
    Re: Welp! This ain't good! Python found wrapped around dead woman neck in house w/ 14
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    Originally Posted by Caitlin View Post
    It might not be a bad idea, when you run across this story being discussed on various reptile forums, to remind folks that today would be a great day to make a donation to USARK. This sort of news coverage is exactly the sort of thing that can spark irrational and ignorant laws. I'm sending a donation as soon as I finish posting this.

    Awesome! I also donate my small part, and it all adds up, so join us my friends!


    Kaos Balls
  • 11-02-2019, 04:38 PM
    bcr229
    There are news reports that the cause of death was asphyxiation. That doesn't make sense to me b/c it's more typical for constrictors to kill by cardiac arrest or shutting off blood flow to the brain.

    https://apnews.com/1962978e8db043648de8e8467f413e3d
  • 11-02-2019, 04:56 PM
    Bogertophis
    Re: Welp! This ain't good! Python found wrapped around dead woman neck in house w/ 14
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bcr229 View Post
    There are news reports that the cause of death was asphyxiation. That doesn't make sense to me b/c it's more typical for constrictors to kill by cardiac arrest or shutting off blood flow to the brain.

    https://apnews.com/1962978e8db043648de8e8467f413e3d

    Maybe there's still hope that this python can wiggle out of the charges? Still probably won't get him released on his own recognizance...:rolleyes:
  • 11-05-2019, 08:34 AM
    ladywhipple02
    Re: Welp! This ain't good! Python found wrapped around dead woman neck in house w/ 14
    This is why I am more concerned about laws at state level vs national level.

    P.S. the “facts” from the Humane Society positively make my blood boil. NOT a reliable news resource at all, but those that aren’t educated will take it as such.


    https://www.wishtv.com/news/indiana-...strict-enough/


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  • 11-05-2019, 03:12 PM
    Bogertophis
    Re: Welp! This ain't good! Python found wrapped around dead woman neck in house w/ 14
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ladywhipple02 View Post
    This is why I am more concerned about laws at state level vs national level.

    P.S. the “facts” from the Humane Society positively make my blood boil. NOT a reliable news resource at all, but those that aren’t educated will take it as such.


    https://www.wishtv.com/news/indiana-...strict-enough/


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    Do bites & accidents happen? Sure...but the same goes for domestic animals. Here's the latest tragedy (below) & you don't generally see dogs banned
    (other than pitbulls in some areas). Sadly the Humane Society as well as PETA have shown massive prejudice toward less traditional pets like snakes. :rolleyes:

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/05/us/oh...ogs/index.html

    With any kind of animals, most accidents are preventable. In the case above it sounds like the Great Danes were hungry (described as thin) & one already displayed temperament issues, but people continue to accept the risks of working with animals they love. It shouldn't matter whether or not it has fur.
  • 11-05-2019, 03:48 PM
    Craiga 01453
    According to Wiki and cited from 2005 (old, I know, but it kinda proves a point)....

    - Approx 30-50 people die in the US each year from dog bites
    - Approx 4.5 MILLION people are bitten by dogs in the US yearly
    - Estimated between 6,000-13,000 Americans are hospitalized due to do bites each year.

    - Avg annual deaths in the US from snake bites, including venomous species = 5

    Granted the numbers are estimates and the stats a bit old, I think it paints a pretty clear picture. But dogs are "cute" and accepted by the majority as pets. Snakes are still too misunderstood by the general public. It's sad, but true.

    Maybe we should ban dogs? They're apparently pretty dangerous...More dangerous than my vape, just saying....
  • 11-05-2019, 05:10 PM
    ladywhipple02
    Re: Welp! This ain't good! Python found wrapped around dead woman neck in house w/ 14
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Craiga 01453 View Post

    Maybe we should ban dogs? They're apparently pretty dangerous...More dangerous than my vape, just saying....

    Yo, back up off my pups! Thems fighting words... lol
  • 11-05-2019, 05:26 PM
    Craiga 01453
    Re: Welp! This ain't good! Python found wrapped around dead woman neck in house w/ 14
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ladywhipple02 View Post
    Yo, back up off my pups! Thems fighting words... lol

    Hahahaha!! I'm animal lover to the core. I love dogs, most of em, hahaha.
    Just my tongue-in-cheek way of throwing a dig at government for stepping on our toes. If their bans were based solely on statistics instead of speculation and misunderstanding, guess what? Dogs would be probably be banned. But since they're cute and furry they're obviously not going anywhere. Rest assured your pups are safe, hahaha.
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