Which Carpet Do I Have?

I'm new to these species and am trying to figure out which species of Carpet Python I have. I know the pics aren't the greatest but he is in quarentine and I don't want to disturb him too much. Hopefully somebody can tell by these pics...

http://i883.photobucket.com/albums/a...Rescues073.jpg
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I'm no expert, but I think I can narrow it down for you: It looks most like a coastal to me, but could also be a jungle or jungle cross that's not very yellow.

Edit: Of course, your sig seems to have decided that it's a jungle. Was this a pop quiz rather than a real question? :)

Edit the second: Duh, that line in your sig says 0.1, so that must be a pre-existing female jungle, disregard my first edit. :P

Definitely looks like a coastal, but i cant really tell if its pure...

Here's another pic I was able to snap. He is not a very vibrant yellow, more like a cream color actually. He had just shed as well this past week according to the previous owner.
As for my sig, I just added him to the sig, but I'm not sure exactly which species of Jungle Python he is...

http://i883.photobucket.com/albums/a...Rescues078.jpg

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Originally Posted by grim reaper in NY

Here's another pic I was able to snap. He is not a very vibrant yellow, more like a cream color actually. He had just shed as well this past week according to the previous owner.
As for my sig, I just added him to the sig, but I'm not sure exactly which species of Jungle Python he is...

http://i883.photobucket.com/albums/a...Rescues078.jpg

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It looks to be a coastal but you can never really tell and those things stuck to the side of the tank for temp and humidity are worthless.

It's a quarentine tank. His new tank is all electronically controlled for humidity and temps. The room is also centrally humidified where I keep my snakes and there is a seperate thermostat and heating source specifically for that room.

Plenty of jungle carpet pythons don't have the bright bright yellows that are often seen when people are posting their trophy animals.

I've noticed he likes to hiss alot. He's not aggressive, but he does hiss. I fed him a F/T rat this morning and he took it immediately then spent about an hour hissing at it from different angles before he finally ate the foolish thing. Pretty amusing to watch actually. I've never seen that before and I was surprised at the way he lunged at the rat. My Balls strike, then wrap, but this guy wrapped around the rat so fast it was both scary and amazing. Only after he squeezed the daylights out of it did he finally strike the head repeatedly.
These definitely aren't Balls, that's for sure.

To me it screams Jungle.

Get better shots of the head scalation, maybe in focus this time, peeps will be able to tell you for sure.

i agree with pat. it's either a jungle or a high percentage jungle mutt... i see very little coastal in it, if any. the only thing that would lend that it may have coastal in it is that the pattern looks pretty clean, which pure jungles often times are not. usually they will get black and brown dorsal 'smudging'.
remember, it's really just here in the US that jungles bring to mind a bright yellow snake... in australia they are literally just the rain forest dwelling version of a coastal carpet python. some locales are naturally yellow, but most are not.

and if you're bored, and want to know the real deal australian views on this... you can read this, i had bookmarked:

http://www.aussiepythons.com/forum/a...-jungle-115985

don't miss page 4...

I will agree with Pat and Colin. It has lots of attributes that say jungle but some that tell me it is likely a high percentage jungle cross.

Please post some better pics.

looks like and costal x jungle python to :confused:me.

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Originally Posted by Colin Vestrand

and if you're bored, and want to know the real deal australian views on this... you can read this, i had bookmarked:

http://www.aussiepythons.com/forum/a...-jungle-115985

don't miss page 4...

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That was an interesting read; it seems we can safely conclude that the snake in question in this thread is definitely a carpet python. :P

I appreciate the input guys. I took the snake to 3 different local python breeders this weekend and came away with 3 different species. One said he was a Carpet, the next claimed he was a Jungle and the 3rd said it was a cross between the two. So basically I'm no closer to knowing what species this snake is than I was last week when I brought him home.

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Originally Posted by grim reaper in NY

I appreciate the input guys. I took the snake to 3 different local python breeders this weekend and came away with 3 different species. One said he was a Carpet, the next claimed he was a Jungle and the 3rd said it was a cross between the two. So basically I'm no closer to knowing what species this snake is than I was last week when I brought him home.

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Hm, that's interesting. "Jungle" presumably means Jungle Carpet (Morelia spilota cheynei). "Carpet" could mean any subspecies within Morelia spilota or any hybrid/intergrade of subspecies within that classification, and so is extremely non-definitive. If by "Carpet," they meant coastal carpet (Morelia spilota mcdoweli), then the 3 of them have basically come to the same conclusion as this thread: it's either a jungle, a coastal, or a jungle/coastal mix. No way to be conclusive w/o breeding/lineage records.

I'm leaning toward a jungle/coastal mix myself at this point. I don't have access to any of the breeding records so it's a crap shoot at best. In all honestly though, I'm really not worried about it simply because I think he's one gorgeous snake and regardless of his official species name and lineage, I'm just happy I have him. Thyanks everyone for all the help and input!!!! :)

since you're not breeding it, you'd be better off calling it a jungle... coastals simply don't have that pattern, color, body shape, or labial markings.

Thanks Colin. I am going to get better pics today of him to post as well. He's had a week to adjust so I'm going to get some good pics of him to post which may shed some more light as to what exactly he might be. Stay tuned...

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Originally Posted by Colin Vestrand

since you're not breeding it, you'd be better off calling it a jungle... coastals simply don't have that pattern, color, body shape, or labial markings.

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Why not just label it a carpet python??? If you are not sure exactly what type or species it is, labeling it a carpet python, while vague, is absolutely truthful.

Im sure Colin and Pat both know a lot more than I do, but I say jungle also.

Here are some more pics of our Carpet Pythin, now named "Stitches" because of the look of his black stripes around his mouth.
Maybe these pics will shed a little more light on just what exactly he might be...

http://i883.photobucket.com/albums/a...Rescues079.jpg
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