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  • 08-20-2009, 10:04 PM
    lolashowme
    Blue eyed luecys and polar ball hets
    Hello everyone!
    I have a question- I have a male double het Polar ball ( Het for both leucistic & Albino ). I am thinking about getting a female blue eyed leucy. What could i produce if i breed them together?
    thank you so much!
    jacqueline :snake:
  • 08-20-2009, 10:14 PM
    sg1trogdor
    Re: Blue eyed luecys and polar ball hets
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by lolashowme View Post
    Hello everyone!
    I have a question- I have a male double het Polar ball ( Het for both leucistic & Albino ). I am thinking about getting a female blue eyed leucy. What could i produce if i breed them together?
    thank you so much!
    jacqueline :snake:

    What exactly do you have a lesser,mojo,etc. het for albino
  • 08-20-2009, 10:24 PM
    lolashowme
    Re: Blue eyed luecys and polar ball hets
    he's a normal double het. what do you think?
  • 08-20-2009, 10:26 PM
    CoolioTiffany
    Re: Blue eyed luecys and polar ball hets
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by lolashowme View Post
    he's a normal double het. what do you think?

    I think he meant by what type of morph produced that BEL, like a Mojave, Fire, Lesser, etc. that your snake is a het for.
  • 08-20-2009, 10:26 PM
    Mitch21
    Re: Blue eyed luecys and polar ball hets
    A normal double het for polar ball????

    Uhhh... can you clarify?
  • 08-20-2009, 10:29 PM
    sg1trogdor
    Re: Blue eyed luecys and polar ball hets
    Well heres the thing Bels ar e produced from co don animals ie,
    Butter
    Lesser Platinum
    Mojave
    Russo
    These are the only animals that can produce a Bel so if you have one of these het for albino then cool if not you were cheated outta some money.
    If you have an animal that looks like a normal then it s probably either a normal or just a het for albino. I hope you didnt pay alot for it. Can you post a pic.
  • 08-20-2009, 10:32 PM
    waltah!
    Re: Blue eyed luecys and polar ball hets
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sg1trogdor View Post
    Well heres the thing Bels ar e produced from co don animals ie, mojave, lesser, fires (or are hose black eyed llucys?). If you have an animal that looks like a normal then it s probably either a normal or just a het for albino. I hope you didnt pay alot for it. Can you post a pic.

    Yeah, what he said. Lucy's are from a visible co dominant morph, not a normal looking animal "het" for Lucy.
    Maybe double het for snow?
  • 08-20-2009, 10:37 PM
    lolashowme
    Re: Blue eyed luecys and polar ball hets
    i want to post a pic- but im new to the forum how do you do it?
    ps- ive always stuck to chondros and brbs so i'm new to bps-- so i hope i didnt pay a lot for nothing -:confused:
  • 08-20-2009, 10:38 PM
    waltah!
    Re: Blue eyed luecys and polar ball hets
    Upload your pics to something like Photobucket. Once pics are uploaded you can copy the IMG code and paste it right here in the thread.
  • 08-20-2009, 10:39 PM
    sg1trogdor
    Re: Blue eyed luecys and polar ball hets
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by lolashowme View Post
    i want to post a pic- but im new to the forum how do you do it?
    ps- ive always stuck to chondros and brbs so i'm new to bps-- so i hope i didnt pay a lot for nothing -:confused:

    Upload your photo to photobucket or another image hosting site. Then you can just copy the image code which will be on the bottom of the uploaded pic and paste it into a thread. :) Doh Darn you Walt darn you all to heck lol.
  • 08-20-2009, 10:39 PM
    lolashowme
    Re: Blue eyed luecys and polar ball hets
    if its too hard to explain how to post a photo would anyone mind if i emailed them personally so i can figure this out? thx!
  • 08-20-2009, 10:41 PM
    lolashowme
    Re: Blue eyed luecys and polar ball hets
    ok lemme figure it out. one sec
  • 08-20-2009, 10:41 PM
    waltah!
    Re: Blue eyed luecys and polar ball hets
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by lolashowme View Post
    if its too hard to explain how to post a photo would anyone mind if i emailed them personally so i can figure this out? thx!

    See the 2 posts before this one for the instructions. You can email em to me if you like. Massboids@comcast.net
    I can post em for you if you need.
  • 08-20-2009, 10:48 PM
    lolashowme
    Re: Blue eyed luecys and polar ball hets
  • 08-20-2009, 10:49 PM
    Mitch21
    Re: Blue eyed luecys and polar ball hets
    Did you buy it already? If so, what'd you pay?
  • 08-20-2009, 10:51 PM
    waltah!
    Re: Blue eyed luecys and polar ball hets
    Het Russo? That would make sense....I always forget about that one;)
    They make the "White Diamond" lucy.
  • 08-20-2009, 10:53 PM
    lolashowme
    Re: Blue eyed luecys and polar ball hets
    should i embarrassed to say it wasnt cheap? :sigh2::sigh2:
  • 08-20-2009, 10:54 PM
    jglass38
    Re: Blue eyed luecys and polar ball hets
    Yeah..It would have to be a het russo, het albino. I am not great at identifying het russos. Who is the breeder?
  • 08-20-2009, 10:55 PM
    waltah!
    Re: Blue eyed luecys and polar ball hets
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by lolashowme View Post
    should i embarrassed to say it wasnt cheap? :sigh2::sigh2:

    Not if it's a Russo het albino....that also depends on what you consider "cheap";)
    Russo's make fantastic looking lucy's, so check with the seller/breeder and see what it is.
  • 08-20-2009, 10:55 PM
    MarkS
    Re: Blue eyed luecys and polar ball hets
    Actually, the polar balls are Russo line leucistics and albino. I don't think a double combo animal has been produced yet with any of the other lines of blue eyed leucistics and albino.

    The picture does look like it could be a Russo line het leucistic. I think he calls them lemon balls?

    Here's a link.

    http://www.cuttingedgeherp.com/nss-f...tLuckyNorm.jpg
  • 08-20-2009, 10:56 PM
    sg1trogdor
    Re: Blue eyed luecys and polar ball hets
    WEll I would ask the breeder/seller you got it from what it is. It could possibly be a Russo. They are a very subtle morph that makes a Lucy. You may not be out anything. Its a possibility but you will not know for sure till you breed it. :)
  • 08-20-2009, 10:57 PM
    lolashowme
    Re: Blue eyed luecys and polar ball hets
    straight from vin russo- thanks you guys! i was momentarily freaked out! :)
  • 08-20-2009, 10:58 PM
    waltah!
    Re: Blue eyed luecys and polar ball hets
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by lolashowme View Post
    straight from vin russo- thanks you guys! i was momentarily freaked out! :)

    Nice. I was thinking you could have gotten duped til I remembered Russo. It's safe to say at this point that it's a Russo;) lol
  • 08-20-2009, 10:58 PM
    jglass38
    Re: Blue eyed luecys and polar ball hets
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by lolashowme View Post
    straight from vin russo- thanks you guys! i was momentarily freaked out! :)

    No worries with an animal from Vin Russo.
  • 08-20-2009, 11:01 PM
    lolashowme
    Re: Blue eyed luecys and polar ball hets
    thats what i assumed! and thats why i was so confused lol-- thanks guys- glad i got that cleared up. :)
  • 08-20-2009, 11:01 PM
    Joe_Compel
    Re: Blue eyed luecys and polar ball hets
    Not to hijack :hijackd: this thread but Jamie Glass almost has 10000 posts.

    Holy :cens0r: Batman!

    And you joined only four months before me. 10K in 5 years.......hot damn.
  • 08-20-2009, 11:03 PM
    jglass38
    Re: Blue eyed luecys and polar ball hets
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Joe_Compel View Post
    Not to hijack :hijackd: this thread but Jamie Glass almost has 10000 posts.

    Holy :cens0r: Batman!

    And you joined only four months before me. 10K in 5 years.......hot damn.

    Joe..Hahaha..Either I have too much free time on my hands or you don't have quite enough. I can guarantee you work much harder than me! I'm a slacker..
  • 08-20-2009, 11:04 PM
    sg1trogdor
    Re: Blue eyed luecys and polar ball hets
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MarkS View Post
    Actually, the polar balls are Russo line leucistics and albino. I don't think a double combo animal has been produced yet with any of the other lines of blue eyed leucistics and albino.

    The picture does look like it could be a Russo line het leucistic. I think he calls them lemon balls?

    Here's a link.

    http://www.cuttingedgeherp.com/nss-f...tLuckyNorm.jpg

    Ahh that makes sense. Thanks for the info. I honestly have never heard of a polar ball before this thread. Had to google it lol.
  • 08-20-2009, 11:04 PM
    Royal Morphz
    Re: Blue eyed luecys and polar ball hets
    That is in fact a het russo so as long as it is truly a het albino you have a Het Russo BEL het Albino which is a dbl het Polar Ball.
    Het russo's are one of the few hard to see BEL makers but it has all the suttle markings that a het Russo has. Congrats and good luck on a Polar Ball
  • 08-20-2009, 11:06 PM
    Joe_Compel
    Re: Blue eyed luecys and polar ball hets
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by lolashowme View Post
    straight from vin russo- thanks you guys! i was momentarily freaked out! :)

    If it came from Vin....then it is what it is. No worries;) He has been doing this this for a while.....and he is trustworthy. Sometimes hets (and the subtle stuff) are only as good as the person that sold them to you.

    Cool snake......shooting for an albino lucy.....ummmmm:)
  • 08-20-2009, 11:07 PM
    Joe_Compel
    Re: Blue eyed luecys and polar ball hets
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jglass38 View Post
    Joe..Hahaha..Either I have too much free time on my hands or you don't have quite enough. I can guarantee you work much harder than me! I'm a slacker..

    The post count just went up.
  • 08-20-2009, 11:08 PM
    jglass38
    Re: Blue eyed luecys and polar ball hets
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Joe_Compel View Post
    The post count just went up.

    For you too..You should get to 10k by the time we have flying cars. ;)
  • 08-20-2009, 11:12 PM
    Joe_Compel
    Re: Blue eyed luecys and polar ball hets
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jglass38 View Post
    For you too..You should get to 10k by the time we have flying cars. ;)

    Another post.....I see how this works. At this rate you will 10K by the end of the week.

    Slacker my butt......you are a post count inflator. And you work hard at it.
  • 08-20-2009, 11:14 PM
    jglass38
    Re: Blue eyed luecys and polar ball hets
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Joe_Compel View Post
    Another post.....I see how this works. At this rate you will 10K by the end of the week.

    Slacker my butt......you are a post count inflator. And you work hard at it.

    Aww Joey..What's got you so upset tonight? Did I attack you at some point and just forgot about it? :confused:

    Why in the world would you care how many posts I have?
  • 08-20-2009, 11:31 PM
    lolashowme
    Re: Blue eyed luecys and polar ball hets
    waltah- i sent you an email -- hit me back when u have a sec- thx!
  • 08-20-2009, 11:56 PM
    waltah!
    Re: Blue eyed luecys and polar ball hets
    Here's a thread with a Polar Ball pic.
    http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s....php?p=1086360
  • 08-20-2009, 11:57 PM
    Joe_Compel
    Re: Blue eyed luecys and polar ball hets
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jglass38 View Post
    Aww Joey..What's got you so upset tonight? Did I attack you at some point and just forgot about it? :confused:

    Why in the world would you care how many posts I have?


    Please.....I'm just playing.
  • 08-21-2009, 12:01 AM
    lolashowme
    Re: Blue eyed luecys and polar ball hets
    waltah! sent you one more email lol
  • 08-21-2009, 12:11 AM
    Watever
    Re: Blue eyed luecys and polar ball hets
    Like other said, you didn't got cheated :) Vin Russo seams like a guy with experience and someone who can be trusted.

    To answer your question, you should try to grab an albino. Is your BP a male or female ? Male usually breed in the second year (some even in the first) and female at their third winter.

    But getting an albino, would get you closer to a Polar ball. Since you should have albinos het lucy and het lucy and normals. Not sure if you would be able to distinguish the het lucy from the normals, but I think so. After it's just a point where you put the albinos het back together and keep your finger crossed :)

    Otherwise, you could get another het lucy (either lesser, butter or mojave) and go for the blue eyed lucy possible het albino :D
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