Pre Lay Signs

I came home from work today to see this...

https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...2/sdc10957.jpg

She is het pied bred to a het pied. Needless to say I have my fingers crossed. :D

John

Looking good! Now the count down after the shed to eggs!

Man thats great good luck!

Nice! Hope the odds are in your favor. :gj:

It's kinda funny how a gravid female will tare the enclosure up. My girl pushes her aspen all over the place. She has developed such a personality latetly. Good job on her! Now all you have to do is wait.

Nice!!!!! Get your incubator ready!

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Originally Posted by twistedtails

It's kinda funny how a gravid female will tare the enclosure up. My girl pushes her aspen all over the place. She has developed such a personality latetly. Good job on her! Now all you have to do is wait.

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Has anyone else experienced this? Almost all of my girls do it, but none have visibly ovulated or anything. They sure are loud at night though; I'll be there trying to sleep and all the snakes are having a grand time rearranging water bowls, banging on the tubs, and making the newspaper crackle really loudly. I've given up on trying to keep my adult females' cages looking nice and neat with the paper.

But man is that girl's belly pink!!! About as pink as my big girl was yesterday, lol. That's a great example of the "pink belly" people talk about when one goes into shed.

Thanks everyone!!

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Originally Posted by Hock3ymonk3y

Nice!!!!! Get your incubator ready!

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Luckily, I all ready have it going. I have about a month left on a het albino X het albino clutch. :P

John

I have found my newly adopted female laying like this the past 2 nights . Is this normal ? I thought she was just shedding . Should I be doing anything for her besides leaving her alone of course she is salmon pink too. :confused:I'm thinking babies is it possible :banana: but :O omg I'm not ready was gonna wait till next season .:rolleye2: She was swollen looking today but not so much now.she is also messing up her newspaper :weirdface Sorry I am not trying to hijack your post . Hope you get lovely pieds and lots of them .

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Originally Posted by americangypsy

I have found my newly adopted female laying like this the past 2 nights . Is this normal ? I thought she was just shedding . Should I be doing anything for her besides leaving her alone of course she is salmon pink too. :confused:I'm thinking babies is it possible :banana: but :O omg I'm not ready was gonna wait till next season .:rolleye2: She was swollen looking today but not so much now.she is also messing up her newspaper :weirdface Sorry I am not trying to hijack your post . Hope you get lovely pieds and lots of them .

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If she is gravid you should be able to hold her up and after she begins to relax see the eggs.

If she is how long would I have to prepare approximately . :confused::oops:

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Originally Posted by americangypsy

If she is how long would I have to prepare approximately . :confused::oops:

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Well if she is in shed right now then about 30 days give or take a few days.

Have an update and question with this one.

First the update. While I do not have a picture of it, she shed exactly 16 days from when I noticed, what I believed to be, her ovulating. This was a great sign and made me even more anxious about this girl.

Now the question. Today, for no real reason, maybe just to reinforce my belief that she is going to lay soon, I introduced my het pied male into her enclosure, expecting them both to act as if the other was not in the tub. Now I have introduced him to her about once per month for the last two months and they have been totally uninterested in each other. Today is different. He wasn't in her tub for more than two hours, when I found them locked again. This baffles me. I have never seen this personally, nor have I read this from anyone else. Hopefully this is more common that what I experienced.

Assuming that what I saw was her ovulating, and assuming that her shedding was a pre-lay shed, and not just a huge coincident, what is going on?

Has anyone else encountered a female that would lock up with a male shortly before she is expected to lay?

Has anyone ever attempted this before, purposely or accidentally?

Any and all insight is greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

John

good luck!!! hope you get alot of pieds!!

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Originally Posted by John Marker

Have an update and question with this one.

First the update. While I do not have a picture of it, she shed exactly 16 days from when I noticed, what I believed to be, her ovulating. This was a great sign and made me even more anxious about this girl.

Now the question. Today, for no real reason, maybe just to reinforce my belief that she is going to lay soon, I introduced my het pied male into her enclosure, expecting them both to act as if the other was not in the tub. Now I have introduced him to her about once per month for the last two months and they have been totally uninterested in each other. Today is different. He wasn't in her tub for more than two hours, when I found them locked again. This baffles me. I have never seen this personally, nor have I read this from anyone else. Hopefully this is more common that what I experienced.

Assuming that what I saw was her ovulating, and assuming that her shedding was a pre-lay shed, and not just a huge coincident, what is going on?

Has anyone else encountered a female that would lock up with a male shortly before she is expected to lay?

Has anyone ever attempted this before, purposely or accidentally?

Any and all insight is greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

John

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I've never had a gravid female lock, but one building follicles... yes. And yes, snakes can & will shed throughout the breeding process. If a female is gravid, she will usually avoid the male.

Based on that, I suggest you continue to cycle the male with her until she refuses him- at least once a week. ;)

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Originally Posted by NorthernRegius

I've never had a gravid female lock, but one building follicles... yes. And yes, snakes can & will shed throughout the breeding process. If a female is gravid, she will usually avoid the male.

Based on that, I suggest you continue to cycle the male with her until she refuses him- at least once a week. ;)

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Yeah, that is pretty much what my conclusion was too. I was just hoping that someone else may have noticed this type of unusual behavior in their collection. :D

Guess it is time to start cycling again to see if I can get her to take.

Thanks for the input.

John