This Is IT!

Okay, i have created my official piece... I have taken all advice on originality, artwork, etc. And have come up with a sick idea! Black Skull Exotics! Check it Out!

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/d...ledGlowing.jpg

Hi,

I'm really trying not to be a buzzkill but it still looks kind of dark and intimidating. Would it be possible to lighten the skull tone and make it more a comedy skull than and evil staring harbinger of doom?

Also, and I hate to be the one pointing this out, BSE is a scary brain eating disease in cattle that crosses over into humans. :(


dr del

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Originally Posted by dr del

Hi,

I'm really trying not to be a buzzkill but it still looks kind of dark and intimidating. Would it be possible to lighten the skull tone and make it more a comedy skull than and evil staring harbinger of doom?

Also, and I hate to be the one pointing this out, BSE is a scary brain eating disease in cattle that crosses over into humans. :(


dr del

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Well nothings perfect lol... I could lighten the tone of the skull but then it
wouldnt look like a "black Skull"... more like a grey skull... I might actually change it to silver skull exotics.. Sounds smoother and will work out better.. Thanks for the info.. I dont want people thinking im selling snakes with a brain eating disease from cows LMAO!

I think you'll attract just as many people as you'll push away with a logo like that. I actually like it but I can definitely see how it might look a little sinister or agressive.

My only critism would be that you loose the detail of the skull's face when you shrink the size of the logo. Maybe if those detail lines within the skull were a different color???

Okay, took the last bits of advice and created this... I changed the name to silver skull exotics because the name flows better, and is just all around better...(as dr.del said, bse is a brain eating disease... lol)... So now its SSE.. And i made it look less "sinister" by adding a big grin :) And getting rid of the evil eyebrows..... The logo is huge here... I can shrink it to any size i want, so i made it huge so it would never resize pixelated...

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/d...ledGlowing.jpg

I've looked at and liked a few of your designs as you've posted them.

This one just does not speak to me.

At first I didn't see all 3 snakes because I was so distracted by the skull. I was excited to see the skull, and found myself dissappointed in it. (I really hate skulls with eyes, if you think about it, it's very macabre)

My opinion is keep working on it. But you do VERY nice and professional work.

I know you are trying to find your niche here, but EVERYTHING you have posted up so far is very macabre...

You will not see many people wanting to do business with someone who has representations of DEATH on thier logo..

In this industry, all you have to go with is your reputation and your image. A lot of people are already telling you that you are not taking this the right way, maybe you should think a bit more about that before continuing on??

Really.

No one is saying pink fluffy bunnies here...

But if you insist on going that way, then best of luck to you.

I know I've got a reputation here for not speaking my mind, for prevarication and obfuscation, but I gotta level with you here, only because you asked, scrap the whole idea IF you want to appeal to mainstream buyers.

Mom and Dad are most likely NOT going to be visiting your website or stopping at your table when they're out shopping for Little Timmy's new pet.

I'm sure you'll get all the 15 to 19 year old tatted, pierced, metalhead unemployed lookers that currently exist, maybe even some of the emo crowd, but how many of them have money to spend?

Target your market. WHO do you want to sell to?

And for those of you who are 15 to 19, have lots of tats and piercings, love metal music and are unemployed....get a job losers.

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Originally Posted by wilomn

And for those of you who are 15 to 19, have lots of tats and piercings, love metal music and are unemployed....get a job losers.

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I have to admit, I LOLed...

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Originally Posted by LadyOhh

I know you are trying to find your niche here, but EVERYTHING you have posted up so far is very macabre...

You will not see many people wanting to do business with someone who has representations of DEATH on thier logo..

In this industry, all you have to go with is your reputation and your image. A lot of people are already telling you that you are not taking this the right way, maybe you should think a bit more about that before continuing on??

Really.

No one is saying pink fluffy bunnies here...

But if you insist on going that way, then best of luck to you.

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I dont see how this is representing death... If i posted a Demon Skull, With Crossbones, and blood spilling out of the mouth with k9 teeth, and red eyes, surrounded by candles, i can see how you would think im representing death... But this is just a simple little cartoon skull (Very simple, with a smile!), with a couple of colorful snakes hanging off of it.... Plus it is is glowing with golden light, which is the opposite of evil.. lol Just because its a "Skull", doesnt mean its representing death or "macabre"....

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Originally Posted by DBD

Just because its a "Skull", doesnt mean its representing death or "macabre"....

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Look up Macabre again

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Originally Posted by DBD

I dont see how this is representing death... If i posted a Demon Skull, With Crossbones, and blood spilling out of the mouth with k9 teeth, and red eyes, surrounded by candles, i can see how you would think im representing death... But this is just a simple little cartoon skull (Very simple, with a smile!), with a couple of colorful snakes hanging off of it.... Plus it is is glowing with golden light, which is the opposite of evil.. lol Just because its a "Skull", doesnt mean its representing death or "macabre"....

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Why do you ask for opinions when you so obviously only want someone to agree with you?

No one has asked you to justify what you have posted. You have asked what we thought, we have told you, you have puckered up and then defended what needs no defense as an attack never occurred.

Step outside your box.

Your forgetting to take into account peoples beliefs that are not like your own. In many areas of the U.S. a simple skull is representative of just that, death and macabre.
This is something that I learned quickly in basic training when I was mixed together with folks from all over the place.

Personally, I like the idea and the logo would not cause me to be reluctant to do business with you.

The skull IS the symbol for death... look at colonial headstones.

You asked for opinions, we're giving you some.

Ultimately it is your decision, do what you want with YOUR company, it is after all, not OURS.

Hopefully you will put as much time into creating the best animals as you do finding an image... I know you've been looking for a good one for a while.
Good Luck.

I really like the snakes and the crown in your logo, however the skull has to go... A cracked skull just reminds me of a bad accident. How about something simple like your name followed by "Exotics" with the snakes and crown somewhere in there.

I really like it...I think you should take what MOST of the people said here..take note on "most" , and possibly look into changing it up just a bit...but only if you are 100% comfortable with that. I really like the design..but as said before, I think it MAY put some people off. In my own personal opinion, I think if you wanna keep a skull you should make it more comical and "soft" .

One more point:

Industries the deal with death don't even have logos with death in them...

My example being the frozen feeder industry.

Do you see any dead rats being paraded around as a logo?

No..

There is a reason for that.

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Originally Posted by LadyOhh

One more point:

Industries the deal with death don't even have logos with death in them...

My example being the frozen feeder industry.

Do you see any dead rats being paraded around as a logo?

No..

There is a reason for that.

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Is it because none of the breeder guys can draw really badass skulls?

Okay, well i guess i'll work on a new idea and get your opinions on the new one... Im trashin this idea.....

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Originally Posted by LadyOhh

No one is saying pink fluffy bunnies here...

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I think this would be a good idea!

It has worked before.

...Playboy.

:)

Better Guys??? LMAO!

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/d...oaDude/wtf.jpg




.........Yes, this is a joke.......

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Originally Posted by wilomn

I'm sure you'll get all the 15 to 19 year old tatted, pierced, metalhead unemployed lookers that currently exist, maybe even some of the emo crowd, but how many of them have money to spend?

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I fall into that category minus the age, and may i add that i have lots of money to spend.

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Originally Posted by likebull1

I fall into that category minus the age, and may i add that i have lots of money to spend.

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He said unemployed, if you have lots of money to spend more than likely you have a job. Which you dont fall into his category.

I agree with wilomn. Did you make that in ms paint?

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Originally Posted by Clear

He said unemployed, if you have lots of money to spend more than likely you have a job. Which you dont fall into his category.

I agree with wilomn. Did you make that in ms paint?

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No i made it in Gimp....

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Originally Posted by LadyOhh

I have to admit, I LOLed...

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Me too!

Later, Matt

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Originally Posted by likebull1

I fall into that category minus the age, and may i add that i have lots of money to spend.

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So, you're a tatted and pierced metalhead. Not what was being criticized.

Later, Matt

How about this one?

http://satanswombat.googlepages.com/...nstrictors.jpg

:P :P :P :P :P :P

I like the crown, and I like the snakes, the skull not so much. Can you do something that's fun, with those snakes, that doesn't include skulls?

I agree about the skull.

Why is a snake coming out of it's head?

*Why not.....


....Make the crown larger and make the snakes coming out of the crown. As if the crown was a bowl.

You can then call yourself, 'Crown Royal' Pythons. :D

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Originally Posted by Jerhart

I agree about the skull.

Why is a snake coming out of it's head?

*Why not.....


....Make the crown larger and make the snakes coming out of the crown. As if the crown was a bowl.

You can then call yourself, 'Crown Royal' Pythons. :D

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Im going to try it... But if that doesnt workout too great, im probably going to switch back to the Silver Skull Exotics Idea, and soften up the skull to make it even more of a comedy skull, not really a danger sign...

I like the crown a lot...Some people may say you're copying their style but I say eff that...But if you get some crank calls from Maryland, that could be it...

Just sayin!

Seriously though, I am the wrong person to comment on logos. I have the artistic talent of a slug.

Update: I CANT draw a dam CROWN! LMAO ROFL! I just got lucky with the first one i drew on the skull... lol

I think a "comedy skull" would be fine, but I don't think the crack with the python coming out of it is a good idea.

Just my :2cent:.

Okay, softened it up into more of a happy cartoon, comedy skull... Got rid of the scary cracks and holes... It looks great.. Let me know if your still scared...

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/d...GOOfficial.jpg

I think that looks WAY better.

Just what is your answer when someone asks, "so why silver skull?"

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Originally Posted by Jerhart

I think that looks WAY better.

Just what is your answer when someone asks, "so why silver skull?"

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:rolleye2:B/c the skull is silver duh.... LOL:rolleye2:

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Originally Posted by jglass38

I like the crown a lot...Some people may say you're copying their style but I say eff that...But if you get some crank calls from Maryland, that could be it...

Just sayin!

Seriously though, I am the wrong person to comment on logos. I have the artistic talent of a slug.

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Hey!

I've seen some remarkable slime patterns made by slugs...

Later, Matt

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Originally Posted by DutchHerp

Hey!

I've seen some remarkable slime patterns made by slugs...

Later, Matt

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there's hope for me yet!

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Originally Posted by DBD

Better Guys??? LMAO!

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/d...oaDude/wtf.jpg




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This picture gave me a good laugh!!! Thanks, i needed it:gj: Good luck.

i like!

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Originally Posted by Clear

He said unemployed, if you have lots of money to spend more than likely you have a job. Which you dont fall into his category.

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Not necessarily. I'm tattooed, pierced, AND currently unemployed - but I still have money to spend. Since I don't fall into the 15-19 age group (I'm 32) and not unemployed by choice, there is such a thing as savings... Among other things. Just another reason you can't judge people too quickly! ;)

Anyway, back to the subject at hand - I don't mind the skull, even though I'm not usually a fan of them. He's kind of cute, especially with the blushing cheeks... LOL. :D

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Originally Posted by Lolo76

Not necessarily. I'm tattooed, pierced, AND currently unemployed - but I still have money to spend. Since I don't fall into the 15-19 age group (I'm 32) and not unemployed by choice, there is such a thing as savings... among other things. ;)

Anyway, back to the subject at hand - I don't mind the skull, even I'm not usually a fan of them. He's kind of cute, especially with the blush! :D

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LOL... nono... That one was a joke.. lol I made it my avitar for the funniness of it lol

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Originally Posted by DBD

LOL... nono... That one was a joke.. lol I made it my avitar for the funniness of it lol

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I know... but I still think it's cute! :D And it might appeal to us ladies, who are a bigger part of the herp community than people realize.

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Originally Posted by DBD

Okay, softened it up into more of a happy cartoon, comedy skull... Got rid of the scary cracks and holes... It looks great.. Let me know if your still scared...

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/d...GOOfficial.jpg

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It's great...... if you're appealing to South Park fans or children/teens.

Okay, Did a whole new idea!! again..... But im sure you guys will ALL LOVE THIS ONE! Im still working on a name, so ill incorporate it into the logo when that happens...

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/d...ogoOnWhite.jpg

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Originally Posted by DBD

Okay, Did a whole new idea!! again..... But im sure you guys will ALL LOVE THIS ONE! Im still working on a name, so ill incorporate it into the logo when that happens...

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/d...ogoOnWhite.jpg

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:gj:

I like. :D

Much Better.

Have you considered dbsbps.com? When you say it out loud, dee bee ess bee pee ess.com it has an interesting roll.

100% better IMO. before it was just seemed way to cartoon network

Made the name... I was playing around a bit with levels of the colors and stuff, and i hit this one spot where the snake is orangeish yellow, with a golden light orange neon type thing surrounding it and it looked like a sun! So i thought of Sun Glo Exotics.... Heres how i incorporated my name into the logo... Also, i added the little diamond sparkle to the eye on this one as well, but its not shown in this one....

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/d...GloExotics.jpg