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Axanthic influence?

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  • 08-02-2009, 04:17 PM
    RegiusCo
    Axanthic influence?
    We bred our male VPI Axanthic Het-Hypo to a Spider, low count of 2 Spider Het-VPI Axanthic 50% Het-Hypo on 8 eggs BUT one of the Spiders looks very odd, looks like some type of silver shade!

    Anyone ever see the Axanthic somehow influencing colors on a normal Het?

    What do you guys think?
    http://www.reptilescanada.com/galler...0/IMG_4265.jpg

    http://www.reptilescanada.com/galler...0/IMG_4269.jpg
  • 08-02-2009, 06:05 PM
    snake-zone.dk
    Re: Axanthic influence?
    mabey the spider was het Axanthic ?

    It looks like you got a Axanthic Spider.. I like it.. :P
  • 08-02-2009, 06:11 PM
    JLC
    Re: Axanthic influence?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RegiusCo View Post
    Anyone ever see the Axanthic somehow influencing colors on a normal Het?

    I have, indeed, seen that. At VPI's own snake house, actually. I saw a couple of different morphs that were het axanthic, and you could clearly see that the single axanthic gene was causing a different look to the animals.

    That spider looks awesome and I would be willing to bet it all that it's het axanthic.

    EDIT: Looking back, I realize that both the spiders are 100% het axanthic...and I wonder if the het ghost gene might be causing an even more dramatic shift in appearance? Either way, gorgeous animal.
  • 08-02-2009, 06:25 PM
    EdShal
    Re: Axanthic influence?
    i like surprise... just like that.
  • 08-02-2009, 07:37 PM
    RegiusCo
    Re: Axanthic influence?
    Quote:

    I wonder if the het ghost gene might be causing an even more dramatic shift in appearance? Either way, gorgeous animal.
    Thats interesting, thanks for your insightful opinion. :)
  • 08-02-2009, 10:42 PM
    rjs73
    Re: Axanthic influence?
    I had the same thing happen with my spider het. axanthics. They are cool looking.
  • 08-02-2009, 11:06 PM
    MarkS
    Re: Axanthic influence?
    I know that pastels het axanthic have a different look to them (much lighter) then normal pastels. So I wouldn't doubt that there is something there causing the reduced yellow look. It is odd though that both het axanthic spiders look that different from each other.
  • 08-02-2009, 11:17 PM
    Bruce Whitehead
    Re: Axanthic influence?
    I had another breeder tell me that she has seen a greyer/silver shade to a limited number of her het axanthics (not all, but the ones that had it she always held back).

    Bruce

    As Judy said, gorgeous animal.:)
  • 08-03-2009, 04:00 AM
    Caz
    Re: Axanthic influence?
    Hello everyone - first post I know - but perhaps maybe it's the spider gene at play when combined with a recessive gene?

    Here's a thread from here in the Uk with a similar occurrence spider/het albino.

    http://www.reptileforums.co.uk/snake...ut-one-my.html
  • 08-03-2009, 05:40 AM
    da_gleadless
    Re: Axanthic influence?
    its a very nice spider either way, will be good to see how it ages :)
  • 08-03-2009, 12:32 PM
    RegiusCo
    Re: Axanthic influence?
  • 08-03-2009, 12:47 PM
    twistedtails
    Re: Axanthic influence?
    Very interesting!!:O
  • 08-04-2009, 09:41 AM
    mason
    Re: Axanthic influence?
    IT's known that certain lines of both albino and axanthic will throw axanthic looking het hatchings, it'll get a bit more yellow back as it grows and sheds but as has already been said it's a keeper, and can sometimes help pick out the hets in poss het litters of certain recessive genes from certain lines. Recently someone on KS posted a litter picture including an axanthic looking pinstripe and that was the albino gene at play.

    an interesting quirk, be interesting to know exactly which lines sometimes behave this way.


    We're actually hoping a similar trait will prove out with the lemon blush strain of albino, we have a pair of hets here and they, and that entire clutch shows very high amounts of blushing, if have a spare normal female this year I'm going to see if we can pick the het girls out of a clutch fathered by out 100% het male.
  • 08-04-2009, 09:46 AM
    guambomb832
    Re: Axanthic influence?
    That spider kind of looks like it gots a really bad shed on it.
    Awesome looking animal!
  • 08-04-2009, 10:04 AM
    RegiusCo
    Re: Axanthic influence?
    Quote:

    That spider kind of looks like it gots a really bad shed on it.
    it sure does as it just crawled out of the egg and has not yet had its first shed! :P
  • 08-04-2009, 05:31 PM
    AaronP
    Re: Axanthic influence?
    Hmm I wonder if she'll hold her color for a couple of weeks/sheds. Maybe she is a Spider axanthic!
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