what is this worth to you?

I want a nice color morph so I'm looking into getting what is called an orange pastel. Is that what this is and will the orange stay after shedding?
heres what I'm looking at:

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t...rs/Mango-2.jpg

First time I heard about these. Unless they are the orange dream.

But if orange dream are publicly available, I am sure they will go for a high price. There is still lot of things to be understand from these and how they grow etc...

Honestly to me they look like 3 regular pastels and 1 normal. The pastels may keep the color but it may very well fade. Depends on a lot of factors that I don't even want to get into. A few are parents, male and female, patterns, exact line of pastel, every line has it's own highs and lows as for fading and keeping color. There are a ton more factors with it but I have not heard of orange pastel.

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Originally Posted by Eniala

I want a nice color morph so I'm looking into getting what is called an orange pastel. Is that what this is and will the orange stay after shedding?
heres what I'm looking at:

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t...rs/Mango-2.jpg

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Looks like a normal pastel to me.You might want to watch out for people adding to the name to attempt to get more money out of them ;).Who is the seller? Not trying to get it out from under you just trying to see if the person has a good rep or not.Or you can check www.faunaclassifieds.com, in the BOI section for yourself.

Those are 100% normal pastels. all hatchling pastels have an orangeish color like that when they are first hatched out.

alright, thanks for the help! What does a normal pastel go for then normally?

Remember that orange turns brown in pastels.

Price on a pastel would depend on the quality of the pastel. A "dirty" pastel male would sell for under $100. A high quality, grade A pastel male would be $150 - $200.

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Originally Posted by rabernet

Remember that orange turns brown in pastels.

Price on a pastel would depend on the quality of the pastel. A "dirty" pastel male would sell for under $100. A high quality, grade A pastel male would be $150 - $200.

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Where have you seen ANY pastel male for $200.00 anywhere over the last two years? Unless it's a combo?

these ones were 150....so thats not a good price?

$150 is a decent price for sure.

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Originally Posted by MarkS

Where have you seen ANY pastel male for $200.00 anywhere over the last two years? Unless it's a combo?

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I bought a male Pastel for $200 just a few months ago.

I recently got a decent male pastel at a local reptile show for 75$, he looks just about the same as those guys

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2...hree-fifty.jpg

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Just kidding. $125 to $150 seems to be a good deal for a higher end pastel, like most have already said.

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Where have you seen ANY pastel male for $200.00 anywhere over the last two years? Unless it's a combo?

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Perhaps $200 is a bit high (but I don't think so for a higher quality animal), but I know that I will NOT be pricing my bright yellow, super faded head lemons for the same price as the pastels that amost look normal. If that means I have to hang on to them, that's fine with me.

You can go to my site and click on The Nest to see just how bright my lemons are, the first picture in the pastel section is my 3 year old male. If someone appreciates a pastel produced through selective breeding rather than one produced by throwing the sire at any old normal, I have no doubt they'll sell.

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Originally Posted by rabernet

Perhaps $200 is a bit high (but I don't think so for a higher quality animal), but I know that I will NOT be pricing my bright yellow, super faded head lemons for the same price as the pastels that amost look normal. If that means I have to hang on to them, that's fine with me.

You can go to my site and click on The Nest to see just how bright my lemons are, the first picture in the pastel section is my 3 year old male. If someone appreciates a pastel produced through selective breeding rather than one produced by throwing the sire at any old normal, I have no doubt they'll sell.

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Whoa! I would certainly buy your lemon pastels! That is amazing!

Man and I payed 400.00 for my pastel male, then again he is 2 years old and I think he was def. worth it cause these colours rock
[IMG]http://i1012.photobucket.com/albums/...i/DSC00278.jpg[/IMG]

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Originally Posted by stefanivanski

Man and I payed 400.00 for my pastel male, then again he is 2 years old and I think he was def. worth it cause these colours rock
[IMG]http://i1012.photobucket.com/albums/...i/DSC00278.jpg[/IMG]

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I would've definitely paid that much for him too! Don't regret it. Unfortunately, BP's are just more expensive over here. :P

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Man and I payed 400.00 for my pastel male, then again he is 2 years old and I think he was def. worth it cause these colours rock

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And that male is worth every penny. As Robin said, you pay for quality. That pastel has unique blushing on that reduced pattern of his, and the colors, even after two years, are noteworthy. It's the uniqueness that commands the price. Ordinary is easy--and cheap.

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Man and I payed 400.00 for my pastel male, then again he is 2 years old and I think he was def. worth it cause these colours rock
[IMG]http://i1012.photobucket.com/albums/...i/DSC00278.jpg[/IMG]

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yeah don't regret it at all, that's one of the nicest pastels out there.

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Man and I payed 400.00 for my pastel male, then again he is 2 years old and I think he was def. worth it cause these colours rock
[IMG]http://i1012.photobucket.com/albums/...i/DSC00278.jpg[/IMG]

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I'd pay that for him too! I know that there are more people out there that are looking for the BEST examples of the morphs that they can find who are willing to pay to get it. I know that I am willing to, because I don't want to produce run of the mill examples of morphs - I want to produce animals that make people stop and take a second look!

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Originally Posted by tattlife2001

Honestly to me they look like 3 regular pastels and 1 normal. The pastels may keep the color but it may very well fade. Depends on a lot of factors that I don't even want to get into. A few are parents, male and female, patterns, exact line of pastel, every line has it's own highs and lows as for fading and keeping color. There are a ton more factors with it but I have not heard of orange pastel.

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Are you suggesting that sex has some influence on how well a pastel will keep its color? If so, that's the first time I've heard of this and I'd be interested to know more ... Thanks!

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Originally Posted by Serpent_Nirvana

Are you suggesting that sex has some influence on how well a pastel will keep its color? If so, that's the first time I've heard of this and I'd be interested to know more ... Thanks!

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I THINK he's saying that the quality of the sire and dam of the pastel will influence how it will look as it matures.

75-100

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Originally Posted by rabernet

Perhaps $200 is a bit high (but I don't think so for a higher quality animal), but I know that I will NOT be pricing my bright yellow, super faded head lemons for the same price as the pastels that amost look normal. If that means I have to hang on to them, that's fine with me.

You can go to my site and click on The Nest to see just how bright my lemons are, the first picture in the pastel section is my 3 year old male. If someone appreciates a pastel produced through selective breeding rather than one produced by throwing the sire at any old normal, I have no doubt they'll sell.

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Well, if you're talking about truly exceptional animals which are very rare, then a couple of hundred or even more wouldn't be out of the question, but for something that is merely good or high quality $125.00 or 'maybe' $150.00 at the most. Most of your average pastels might be around $100.00 or a bit less, and the real dogs would be at $75.00 and going down from there. (all personal opinion)

But then again, the whole opinion thing comes into play some more when choosing traits, something I might consider a dog might be average or better for you. Something I might consider high quality might make you scratch your head and wonder at my sanity. There are so many variables in play, who determines which traits are best? Do you like a very light butter yellow or a bolder lemon yellow? Do you like more blushing or better definition and contrast? Do you like an interesting busy jungley pattern or more of a reduced pattern? None of these are either 'right' or 'wrong' but all just personal preference, and the breeder will price them according to their preferences.