Grade A Lessers

I made a thread a while back about lesser platinums being quality graded. My question now after searching through as many before and after pictures as I could... Is there any way to truly foresee what a lesser will look like once it looses its juvenile colors?

I really REALLY do not like the adult lessers that get a heavy green tint or lessers that brown out badly.
Having said that, is there any shade of colors I should stay away from?

I realize this is a fairly hard question to answer (at least I think it is...), but any help is VERY appreciated!!

Mitch

your best bet would be looking at the parents.

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Originally Posted by takagari

your best bet would be looking at the parents.

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Yep, Look at the parents and that should give you an idea.

Daniel

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Originally Posted by takagari

your best bet would be looking at the parents.

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... or just get a really nice yellow Butter -- just kidding Lesser lovers.;):):rofl:

Alright. "Look at parents" it is...

Thanks!

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Originally Posted by Mitch21

I made a thread a while back about lesser platinums being quality graded. My question now after searching through as many before and after pictures as I could... Is there any way to truly foresee what a lesser will look like once it looses its juvenile colors?

I really REALLY do not like the adult lessers that get a heavy green tint or lessers that brown out badly.
Having said that, is there any shade of colors I should stay away from?

I realize this is a fairly hard question to answer (at least I think it is...), but any help is VERY appreciated!!

Mitch

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...perhaps all reasons to go butter?

I don't care for adult lessers much either, that is why I have butters.:D

Pastel Lesser or Ghost Lesser or why not a Pastel Lesser Ghost lol would make them amazing :D

but in my dream (hope not too far hehe)

Are you saying that butters are less likely to green or brown out as adults??

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Originally Posted by briz

I don't care for adult lessers much either, that is why I have butters.:D

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What about Lesser adults don't you like??

I think adult Lessers are ugly too. The only reason I bought this ol' skank is because I knew nobody else would buy him and give him a good home. :rolleye2:

http://photos.imageevent.com/corners...20Male_GHI.jpg

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Originally Posted by Louis Kirkland

I think adult Lessers are ugly too. The only reason I bought this ol' skank is because I knew nobody else would buy him and give him a good home. :rolleye2:

http://photos.imageevent.com/corners...20Male_GHI.jpg

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Yup....he's hideous, Louis! Kudos for you for being willing to sully your fine collection by giving a home to such a hopeless eyesore! :P :P :P

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Yea Louis, I can see what your saying.. Now don't get me wrong I like butters too..but a nice Lesser..hands down any day.

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/h...ser/Lesser.jpg

P.S you know I'm not that far if you just want to off load that ugly boy of yours.

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Originally Posted by JLC

Yup....he's hideous, Louis! Kudos for you for being willing to sully your fine collection by giving a home to such a hopeless eyesore! :P :P :P

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Thank you Judy. I've always had a soft spot in my heart for the unloved among God's creatures. :)

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Yea Louis, I can see what your saying.. Now don't get me wrong I like butters too..but a nice Lesser..hands down any day.

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/h...ser/Lesser.jpg

P.S you know I'm not that far if you just want to off load that ugly boy of yours.

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Man Ed.....you've got one of those ugly adult Lessers too?!?! I thought I was the only one gullible enough to spend good money on something like that.

As for unloading this ol' boy on you, that's more than I could ask of you. It's hard to have one of these (to quote Judy) "hideous" lookin' things in your collection, much less two! ;)

Just in case there's anybody out there who doesn't know I'm just kiddin' around, let me say....I'm just kiddin'.

Would both of you be willing to share baby pics of each of your lessers?? It'd be great to have another before and after picture!

I'd have to get them from the breeder I got it from :D I don't have baby pics.. I sunk the coin on a proven breeder

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Originally Posted by Louis Kirkland

I think adult Lessers are ugly too. The only reason I bought this ol' skank is because I knew nobody else would buy him and give him a good home. :rolleye2:

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Hey Luis I’ll give that ugly guy a good home for you and even can provide him an ugly girlfriend.

All these ugly lessers, I don't think I can stand it!!!

Alright I'm back with another question...

As far as guesstimating the adult colors of a lesser, would you expect a lighter lesser to brown or green tint more? Or would expect a darker lesser to brown or green tint more?

Here's two different lessers (from Rusty's Balls)...

Darker
http://www.rustys-balls.com/assets/g...s/09-11-52.jpg

Lighter
http://www.rustys-balls.com/assets/g...s/09-05-22.jpg

I think both of these animals are absolutely stunning, but what do you think each snake's adult colors would look like???


GUESSTIMATES are very welcome! :)

https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...7/img_3860.jpg






I love lesser's!!!!



https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...7/img_1291.jpg


Here he is as a hatchling.


https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...7/img_4235.jpg

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Originally Posted by Emilio

https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...7/img_3860.jpg






I love lesser's!!!!



https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...7/img_1291.jpg


Here he is as a hatchling.


https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...7/img_4235.jpg

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Me too ;)

For another comparison, here is a picture of our male lesser breeder:

http://theherpvault.com/images/colle...serM070309.jpg

And a picture of one of his male offspring that hatched out last month:

http://theherpvault.com/images/colle...201-LP1_KS.jpg

I love Butters and Lessers and have both! They are both amazingly beautiful! I might be more partial to the Butter though... :)

Hi,

I think another problem might arise from those of us with less than stellar cameras. :oops: :P

I think my male lesser has a lot of yellow and green tint to him and went to grab you a picture showing it - and the camera produced this instead.

http://satanswombat.googlepages.com/ElamSuperstar1.jpg

I can't even work out how to change the colour balance to get a closer representation.


dr del

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

What about Lesser adults don't you like??

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Somehow I missed this, so I'll answer it now. I am big into selective breeding so for me I just think butters hold their yellow a little better. Don't get me wrong I have seen some nice lesser adults that I like, but for every one lesser I see, I see 4 or 5 butters. I think alot of people jumped on lessers and breed them to every female they had, to get as many as they could. This of course would result in some dark ugly lessers. Again I know people also did it with butters, but those in it for the money went for lessers because they were cheaper.

This is just my opinion of course.

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Originally Posted by Mitch21

Would both of you be willing to share baby pics of each of your lessers?? It'd be great to have another before and after picture!

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Mitch, I'm in the same boat as Ed. I purchased the Lesser I posted the pic of as an adult so I don't have any pics of him as a baby. I have seen pics of some of his progeny produced by his previous owner and they were some of the nicest Lessers I've seen, brightly colored with lots of blushing.

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Originally Posted by Deborah

Hey Luis I’ll give that ugly guy a good home for you and even can provide him an ugly girlfriend.

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Thanks Deborah. When this homely rascal wears out his welcome around here, I'll give you a call. We may have to sneak him by Ed though. :P