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First ball!!!!
Hey guys finally got my snake today, its a girl. It was at this local reptile show and she was only $20. I just fed her a live hopper to her today, but i want to eventually go to F/T but the breeder said he was feeding live and I guess that the young ones dont take F/T well.
Also I have some pics of my 38g tank that I got for $25 with some accesories.
Right now she IS in the 38g tank but its sort of cluttered on the one side. I want to get a plant for the other side but didnt see any good ones at the reptile show.
http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/a...keeeeee016.jpg
http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/a...keeeeee014.jpg
Drinking
http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/a...keeeeee010.jpg
Trying to escape/ exploring
http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/a...keeeeee018.jpg
http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/a...3/SNAKE003.jpg
http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/a...3/SNAKE004.jpg
Tank on my bed
http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/a...newtank011.jpg
http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/a...newtank006.jpg
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Great snake and great pictures! I think you could use a little work on your setup but other then that it looks good :)
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which ohio show did you go to?
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haha i love watching them drink ^-^. its awesome she already ate for u =p
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Originally Posted by Paradox81
which ohio show did you go to?
I went to the one in brookpark at the U.A.W. hall. They have one every month, this was my first time going
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Originally Posted by Kaorte
Great snake and great pictures! I think you could use a little work on your setup but other then that it looks good :)
Thanks, what kind of work would you recommend?
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Originally Posted by h00blah
haha i love watching them drink ^-^. its awesome she already ate for u =p
lol yeah, the breeder said the last time she ate was on monday so its been about a week.
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Very nice looking girl!! Congrats on your first ball :0)
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Originally Posted by Maize411
Very nice looking girl!! Congrats on your first ball :0)
Thank you :D
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Welcome to the addiction!
Here ya go
http://www.ball-pythons.net/modules/...warticle&id=59
That will help your setup tremendously...
Also
Aspen bedding is better for your ball (hmmm...new tongue twister :P)
but newspaper is best...I'm only assuming you want a decorative tank setup, so that is why I recommended the aspen...
you may want to cover the screen
heres a link to do that...
http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...ad.php?t=90187
Log hides are not optimal for your BP, you can buy the cave hides from the petshop, oooor....
http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...ad.php?t=59280
I think that about does it... The caresheets explain to you UTH, and Acurites, and handling and yadda and yadda and yadda...
But please do read...it is very essential for upkeeping a ball, and I couldnt have done it without this site...
:welcome:
I think I'm just gonna copy and paste what I just mentioned above for any newbies passing my way...to the others...did i fail to mention anything else?
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Accidental Post. I thought I was on I<3Dreamsicles but ILOVELEUCIE63 was on before me......
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Originally Posted by Montie Python
Welcome to the addiction!
Here ya go
http://www.ball-pythons.net/modules/...warticle&id=59
That will help your setup tremendously...
Also
Aspen bedding is better for your ball (hmmm...new tongue twister :P)
but newspaper is best...I'm only assuming you want a decorative tank setup, so that is why I recommended the aspen...
you may want to cover the screen
heres a link to do that...
http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...ad.php?t=90187
Log hides are not optimal for your BP, you can buy the cave hides from the petshop, oooor....
http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...ad.php?t=59280
I think that about does it... The caresheets explain to you UTH, and Acurites, and handling and yadda and yadda and yadda...
But please do read...it is very essential for upkeeping a ball, and I couldnt have done it without this site...
:welcome:
I think I'm just gonna copy and paste what I just mentioned above for any newbies passing my way...to the others...did i fail to mention anything else?
whoops....
What makes aspen better?
Right now I do have the screen covered just with foil taped on though, I didnt put tape over the whole piece of foil like in that thread.
Also for the log hide I piled up the repti bark on the glass so you cant see in/or out. I already have a cave hide on the other side but its covered pretty well by the fake plant. (she couldnt find it i had to put her half way in it and now she wont come out, before she was just hiding under the leaves)
The tank came with a hydrometer in it, i want to get one of the acu-rites with therm, humidity, and a temp probe but im not sure where to find one, I havent really looked IN STORE yet.
Just for the set up, what else do I need, since I know I already have the essentials. (I have a 75watt redlight and a 30-40 zoomed UTH) I want another fake plant for the other side but I dont know what else would make it better.
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You should have two identical hides.
Are you regulating your heat sources?
I like aspen better personally. I wouldn't say it is better than the bark though.
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Originally Posted by I<3Dreamsicles
whoops....
What makes aspen better?
Right now I do have the screen covered just with foil taped on though, I didnt put tape over the whole piece of foil like in that thread.
Also for the log hide I piled up the repti bark on the glass so you cant see in/or out. I already have a cave hide on the other side but its covered pretty well by the fake plant. (she couldnt find it i had to put her half way in it and now she wont come out, before she was just hiding under the leaves)
The tank came with a hydrometer in it, i want to get one of the acu-rites with therm, humidity, and a temp probe but im not sure where to find one, I havent really looked IN STORE yet.
Just for the set up, what else do I need, since I know I already have the essentials. (I have a 75watt redlight and a 30-40 zoomed UTH) I want another fake plant for the other side but I dont know what else would make it better.
Aspen is better because it holds humidity better...and through personal experience with reptibark (not with my bp) Ive seen lots of bugs in there as well...
As already mentioned you should have two identical hides...
and as well the log can also be a place for bugs...
Acurites are located in your local K-mart, Lowes, Home Depot, and Walmart...not for 50 dollars, nor for 40, not even 20 dollars!...just only 3 easy payments of 5.33 (plus shipping and handling) Sorry I go off on these tangents sometimes...:rolleye2:
You may also want a thermostat and if you can't afford that then a rheostat...to control your uth
The light may or may not be necessary, but will be determined once you have your accurite...
It is not recommended to have a 35 gallon (i think thats what you said) tank for a baby bp, 10 gallon will do ok...BUT since you have your 35 gallon (I think thats what you said) you may want to get a divider, or just crowd the place with fake plants and such...even crunched up newspaper...
I dont think this has been mentioned, but there are certain fake plants that detaches to the main vine
I detach the leaves and spread them around the floor, it looks very stealthy when my bp cruises around...
Hmmm...what else?
Make sure you love your BP
Thats all i think...
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Originally Posted by Montie Python
Aspen is better because it holds humidity better...and through personal experience with reptibark (not with my bp) Ive seen lots of bugs in there as well...
As already mentioned you should have two identical hides...
and as well the log can also be a place for bugs...
Acurites are located in your local K-mart, Lowes, Home Depot, and Walmart...not for 50 dollars, nor for 40, not even 20 dollars!...just only 3 easy payments of 5.33 (plus shipping and handling) Sorry I go off on these tangents sometimes...:rolleye2:
You may also want a thermostat and if you can't afford that then a rheostat...to control your uth
The light may or may not be necessary, but will be determined once you have your accurite...
It is not recommended to have a 35 gallon (i think thats what you said) tank for a baby bp, 10 gallon will do ok...BUT since you have your 35 gallon (I think thats what you said) you may want to get a divider, or just crowd the place with fake plants and such...even crunched up newspaper...
I dont think this has been mentioned, but there are certain fake plants that detaches to the main vine
I detach the leaves and spread them around the floor, it looks very stealthy when my bp cruises around...
Hmmm...what else?
Make sure you love your BP
Thats all i think...
I deffinatley noticed alot of bugs in the repti bark too. First when i put it in the tank, then i washed it, and got the bigger tank so i had to put more in, and didnt wash it, i saw like 6 little bugs in my bathroom just while i was brushing my teeth.
Well I want to get an acu-rite soon.
How much does a thermostat cost?
I had a 10 gallon set up for the snake but then I got the 38 i think it is. im not really sure but its somewhere around there, and i already had the 30-40 gallon UTH and i didnt want to set it up so it was sticking out of the 10gallon tanks edge. As I said I do want to get other fake plants to put on the other side of the tank since its pretty open.
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If you want to get all the bugs off the repti-bark than throw it in the oven at 130 degrees for 30 minutes and you will have a nice sterile substrate.
I personally like aspen the best, hold humidity the best and makes cleaning a breeze.
A ranco thermostat from reptile basics is 80 bucks, its a pretty solid tstat in my opinion, mine have never gave me any problems.
the 38G will probably end up giving you problems in the long run, stress and security issues are more than likely to become an issue, if you want a smaller setup and save some money tubs will work great and they are the best for keeping the humidity and temps consistent.
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Originally Posted by joshn6805
If you want to get all the bugs off the repti-bark than throw it in the oven at 130 degrees for 30 minutes and you will have a nice sterile substrate.
I personally like aspen the best, hold humidity the best and makes cleaning a breeze.
A ranco thermostat from reptile basics is 80 bucks, its a pretty solid tstat in my opinion, mine have never gave me any problems.
the 38G will probably end up giving you problems in the long run, stress and security issues are more than likely to become an issue, if you want a smaller setup and save some money tubs will work great and they are the best for keeping the humidity and temps consistent.
thanks for that, its a bit late but still. I washed the first bit of it because it seemed really dusty.
$80 for a tstat. Ill have to look around for some
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lol. well also, i have the first feeding vid. she didnt like the mouse dangling to much, rather on the ground... we tried once before this and she didnt go after it so I put her back in her tank...
Lame warning for people who freak out about live feeding.... and crazy "music" because my friend likes that stuff and it kinda goes with the whole... killing the mouse theme...
YouTube - Baby Ball Python Eating
(idk how to have it show up on this page unless it does automatically).. preview post and it does... cool.
haha. music replaces the excited lame talking and stuff. :gj:
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Originally Posted by I<3Dreamsicles
thanks for that, its a bit late but still. I washed the first bit of it because it seemed really dusty.
$80 for a tstat. Ill have to look around for some
look no more
http://www.reptilebasics.com/
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Originally Posted by joshn6805
Thanks for the link they have some cool stuff but are all Tstats that expensive??? lol. They have alot of cool stuff on that site :gj:
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Originally Posted by I<3Dreamsicles
Thanks for the link they have some cool stuff but are all Tstats that expensive??? lol. They have alot of cool stuff on that site :gj:
unfortunately, yes all tstats are pretty expensive but they can run alot of setups per unit so its definitely worth it. the ranco is the cheapest your gonna get but its really solid I own a couple and they have always done great for me.
if you cant afford the tstat you can go to petsmart and get a rheostat, but spending 50 more bucks for the tstat is worth every penny.
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Originally Posted by joshn6805
unfortunately, yes all tstats are pretty expensive but they can run alot of setups per unit so its definitely worth it. the ranco is the cheapest your gonna get but its really solid I own a couple and they have always done great for me.
if you cant afford the tstat you can go to petsmart and get a rheostat, but spending 50 more bucks for the tstat is worth every penny.
and I thought tstats were suposed to be cheaper....
guess not...
and, petco's rheostat is like $35, petsmarts is $22...
How is a tstat better? dont they do the exact same thing? :D
except the tstat has a probe, and (the ranco) can do 1500watts when the ZOOMED rheostat can only do 150w... I dont need over 150 though. Heat lamps 75w and the UTH is like 16watts...
The only diff i can see is that the ranco is probably higher quality since the price, and it has a probe that tells you the temp instead of finding out some other way with the rheostat.
Do the temps on the two things have to be set the same? Cause that probably would defeat the purpose of having a heat lamp for a hot spot and a UTH for warm....
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Well tstats are just a whole lot easier to use and some people here have had failures with the zoomed rheostats, I dont trust the rheostat with my collection so to me it was worth spending the extra money to have some peace of mind that I wasnt goin to have my house burned down or my reptiles fried.
I dont really think a heat lamp is neccesary it just KILLED the humidity back in the old days of glass aquariums, one uth on the hot side set to 90 to 94 should work just fine.
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Originally Posted by joshn6805
Well tstats are just a whole lot easier to use and some people here have had failures with the zoomed rheostats, I dont trust the rheostat with my collection so to me it was worth spending the extra money to have some peace of mind that I wasnt goin to have my house burned down or my reptiles fried.
I dont really think a heat lamp is neccesary it just KILLED the humidity back in the old days of glass aquariums, one uth on the hot side set to 90 to 94 should work just fine.
Ehh. lol if i had a whole collection then i would deffinatley invest in something to keep them all running well. Yeah... Well actually the heat lamp almost is necessary but thats why i want the ACU-RITE. My thermometer (petco... put it in becuase i didnt have anything else yet...) says like 85 and its under the heat light, when its off it says like 75 or so. The uth idk the temp but the substrate feels slightly warm. Deffinatley not HOT... Maby ill go out tomorrow and look for acu-rite because i want to get more fake leaves anyway. Right now my snakes usually behind the leaves and not even in the hide. But the leaves are really thick like a hide...
I do have foil ontop of the tank too, but another thing is the tank came with a hydrometer in it (zilla) but i really dont know if its even correct.... It moves. But...... :weirdface
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The heat lamp isnt really doing anything but making the ambient air tempature higher and nothing for the substrate heat, thats why an uth is reccomended.
the substrate might feel warm to the touch but what does the actual bottom of the aquarium feel like? sometimes balls will burrow and sitting on top of hot glass will def. give her some bad burns.
Those analog thermometers/hydrometer are horrible!!! they are very inaccurate, you def. need to get an accurite.
I also hope you fix the hides and get two of these http://www.petco.com/product/10520/E...=RepAmp_Snakes
one for the warm side and one for the cool side.
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Originally Posted by joshn6805
The heat lamp isnt really doing anything but making the ambient air tempature higher and nothing for the substrate heat, thats why an uth is reccomended.
the substrate might feel warm to the touch but what does the actual bottom of the aquarium feel like? sometimes balls will burrow and sitting on top of hot glass will def. give her some bad burns.
Those analog thermometers/hydrometer are horrible!!! they are very inaccurate, you def. need to get an accurite.
I also hope you fix the hides and get two of these http://www.petco.com/product/10520/E...=RepAmp_Snakes
one for the warm side and one for the cool side.
The UTH is for the substrate heat I guess, doesnt the ambient air temp still have to be up. Warmer then the UTH would get it.
I havent felt the bottom, except when I was waiting for the UTH to warm up when i first plugged it in, after like half an hour or longer.
So ive heard about the analog ones.... Thats why ive been thinking about the accurite lol. Actually, as far as I can tell the petco one isnt doing to bad, since it told me the same temp as our thermostat is set at for the house, give or take 1º
I already have a medium exo terra cave hide, I was gonna buy a half log when I ordered my petco stuff (shoulda got 2 exoterra hides it was only like $4 online), but now I have that half log that came with the tank. I have the exo terra over the UTH and the log hide by the heat lamp. Or I could use a home made hide if that works? Im not really believing this "two identical hide" stuff.... I have a plastic bowl or and a macoroni salad container that i made into hides that could be used on the other side too. Both have small openings so the snake could just fit.
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she's so tiny hehe I love it!!
I don't know if you have a dollarama but they have fantastic plants for a buck! I find pet stores are way too expensive, plus once you get bored with the set up you can change it for much less
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She is beautiful and you have been getting a LOT of great advice from great people. But I want to suggest that you unplug your UTH immediately before your BP gets burnt. She will be fine without a UTH until you can get something to regulate it and check the temperatures of. I tested my Zoomed 10-20 gallon UTH once and let it go unregulated; it went up to 138*F on the glass before I decided to shut it of. Imagine your BP laying on that. :(
And please get the acu-rite asap and get rid of the analog stuff. You wont regret the money you spend on her, trust me. (I spent $300 on Oz's enclosure to ensure it is 100% safe and comfortable for him.)
The difference between a rheostat and thermostat is a LOT. A rheostat only dims the power of your UTH (or whatever you plug it into) and it is very unreliable. If your room temperature flucuates 1 degree, so does your UTH. You have to constantly tweak it and it is a huge hassle walking into your room and finding your UTH is 5* over what it was a half hour ago. :(
A thermostat tests the temperature of the UTH and turns it on/of (or dims the power) accordingly. You set it to 95*, and it will stay at 95* no matter what your room temperatures are. I suggest any of the higher priced thermostats (helix, herpstat, ranco, + johnsons) but the reptitemp 500r will work fine if you keep an eye on it. You cannot set the reptitemp to a certain temperature like the higher end thermostats. The reptitemp 500r is like a step above a rheostat. I use it temporarily at the moment until I order a different thermostat and it WORKS but I would rather not worry about the temps constantly. To me it is worth spending the extra $100 for peace of mind.
About believing the two identical hide stuff, you better believe it. I had two almost identical hides, the rock cave ones you buy from pet stores. Except one was dark brown and the other was tan. My BP ALWAYS preferred the darker one which was on the cool side. Now They are literally identical and he thermoregulates from one end to the other as he should.
You could cut holes in bowls or whatever works for you, just make sure they are both identical.
I would also buy more plants and make sure most of the inside is full. You could also take another step by covering 3 sides with black foam board. I find it looks REALLY good.
Here is a picture of Ozzy's setup if you are interested. This is when I had the two different color hides. He is around 250-300 grams.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...enclosure1.png
Here's my version of the 'acu-rite'
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...enclosure5.png
Hope this helps.
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If you can't afford the ranco or johnsons then get a reptitemp 500r. There is nothing wrong with this t-stat. I have used it with no problems and so have many others. They should only be around $20.
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Originally Posted by Hortass
she's so tiny hehe I love it!!
I don't know if you have a dollarama but they have fantastic plants for a buck! I find pet stores are way too expensive, plus once you get bored with the set up you can change it for much less
lol she is pretty small. Pet stores are way to expensive, I got my plant from petco on CLEARANCE for $8.99.
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Originally Posted by Sarin
She is beautiful and you have been getting a LOT of great advice from great people. But I want to suggest that you unplug your UTH immediately before your BP gets burnt. She will be fine without a UTH until you can get something to regulate it and check the temperatures of. I tested my Zoomed 10-20 gallon UTH once and let it go unregulated; it went up to 138*F on the glass before I decided to shut it of. Imagine your BP laying on that. :(
And please get the acu-rite asap and get rid of the analog stuff. You wont regret the money you spend on her, trust me. (I spent $300 on Oz's enclosure to ensure it is 100% safe and comfortable for him.)
The difference between a rheostat and thermostat is a LOT. A rheostat only dims the power of your UTH (or whatever you plug it into) and it is very unreliable. If your room temperature flucuates 1 degree, so does your UTH. You have to constantly tweak it and it is a huge hassle walking into your room and finding your UTH is 5* over what it was a half hour ago. :(
A thermostat tests the temperature of the UTH and turns it on/of (or dims the power) accordingly. You set it to 95*, and it will stay at 95* no matter what your room temperatures are. I suggest any of the higher priced thermostats (helix, herpstat, ranco, + johnsons) but the reptitemp 500r will work fine if you keep an eye on it. You cannot set the reptitemp to a certain temperature like the higher end thermostats. The reptitemp 500r is like a step above a rheostat. I use it temporarily at the moment until I order a different thermostat and it WORKS but I would rather not worry about the temps constantly. To me it is worth spending the extra $100 for peace of mind.
About believing the two identical hide stuff, you better believe it. I had two almost identical hides, the rock cave ones you buy from pet stores. Except one was dark brown and the other was tan. My BP ALWAYS preferred the darker one which was on the cool side. Now They are literally identical and he thermoregulates from one end to the other as he should.
You could cut holes in bowls or whatever works for you, just make sure they are both identical.
I would also buy more plants and make sure most of the inside is full. You could also take another step by covering 3 sides with black foam board. I find it looks REALLY good.
Here is a picture of Ozzy's setup if you are interested. This is when I had the two different color hides. He is around 250-300 grams.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...enclosure1.png
Here's my version of the 'acu-rite'
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...enclosure5.png
Hope this helps.
Well Ill probably try to get the zoomed reptitemp 500r then since its one i could probably go out and buy instead of buy online. And its cheaper.
If I covered the sides I would probably use one of thoes aquarium background things.
I might go out today and try to find the repti temp 500r and fake plants ect.
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Originally Posted by I<3Dreamsicles
lol she is pretty small. Pet stores are way to expensive, I got my plant from petco on CLEARANCE for $8.99.
Well Ill probably try to get the zoomed reptitemp 500r then since its one i could probably go out and buy instead of buy online. And its cheaper.
If I covered the sides I would probably use one of thoes aquarium background things.
I might go out today and try to find the repti temp 500r and fake plants ect.
your best bet is going to be a petsmart, I personally have never seen the repti temp 500r in any stores around here so you might have to order offline.
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your best bet is going to be a petsmart, I personally have never seen the repti temp 500r in any stores around here so you might have to order offline.
:O I was hoping they would have it in store.... :(
I was going to go to petsmart anyway since they are alot closer then petco.
Last time I was at petsmart I didnt notice a repti temp but i wasnt really looking either....
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Maybe you can get them to order one in for you, They probly have one there you might not have noticed it. Im sure they can get one for you, I checked and it was listed on there web site.
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Most stores can order one for you if they do not normally carry it. I work at a local Pet Store and order odd things all the time for people.
Like I said the reptitemp works fine for small scale and it is cheap, just make sure to keep an eye on it. :D
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Originally Posted by Sarin
Most stores can order one for you if they do not normally carry it. I work at a local Pet Store and order odd things all the time for people.
Like I said the reptitemp works fine for small scale and it is cheap, just make sure to keep an eye on it. :D
I went to petsmart and they said that they have it online but its an online only item :mad:
so what would be like $22 is like $35 with shipping. and my parents hate when i use their credit cards to order offline.
Also since i couldnt find an acurite at walmart i might get that fluker thermometer and hydrometer, then go to petco and get a digital thermometer they have with a probe. i saw it online for $6 i hope they have it in store..... :rolleyes:
Where do you guys get food? I just found out that rodent pro is a deal yes but shipping is like ... alot. and petsmart had small mice? i think it was for 6 for $11
i might try going to the same reptile show i got my snake from $4 to get in but they have a rodent pro stand so that would like take away shipping costs...
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I went to petsmart and they said that they have it online but its an online only item :mad:I was worried that would be the case as I have never seen one of those in my stores. Im sure they would have some thermometers at your local reptile show if you wanna buy a rheostat to hold you over untill than?
so what would be like $22 is like $35 with shipping. and my parents hate when i use their credit cards to order offline.
Also since i couldnt find an acurite at walmart i might get that fluker thermometer and hydrometer, then go to petco and get a digital thermometer they have with a probe. i saw it online for $6 i hope they have it in store..... :rolleyes:
Where do you guys get food? I just found out that rodent pro is a deal yes but shipping is like ... alot. and petsmart had small mice? i think it was for 6 for $11Fortunately this has never been a problem for me as I breed my own rats.
i might try going to the same reptile show i got my snake from $4 to get in but they have a rodent pro stand so that would like take away shipping costs...Yea when you pay that shipping cost you are paying mostly for the dry ice and container if you can hold off on the feeders until the reptile show that would probably be the best thing.
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AHHH idk i guess ill try to order the thermostat since it would be a waste just to buy a rheostat then get a thermostat.
haha i dont wanna breed rats or mice since I only have one snake.
well i already got some frozen mice which should last untill the next reptile show since they have one like every month. (hopefully i can get my snake to eat the frozen thawed since its only ever eaten live :no:
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yeah, u should probably do what everyone else said to do.
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yeah, u should probably do what everyone else said to do.
you should probably stop trying to boost your post count. :colbert:
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you should probably stop trying to boost your post count. :colbert:
IM NOT BOOSTING MY POST COUNT!!!:rage::rage::rage:
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