Woma - Lesser Picture ? (No hidden gene)

Does any one have a picture of a normal woma-lesser ?

Not the ones NERD produced with the hidden-gene but the ones without it.

Does it look like a lesser bee ? Or it's a bit different ?

Thank you :)

And does anyone have any idea if the lesser pearl NERD hatched in 2006 survived ? Cause we never heard of, so I would assume not, but well we never know, since he keep stuff secret :D

Thank you guys (and girls)

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Originally Posted by Watever

Does any one have a picture of a normal woma-lesser ?

Not the ones NERD produced with the hidden-gene but the ones without it.

Does it look like a lesser bee ? Or it's a bit different ?

Thank you :)

And does anyone have any idea if the lesser pearl NERD hatched in 2006 survived ? Cause we never heard of, so I would assume not, but well we never know, since he keep stuff secret :D

Thank you guys (and girls)

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Kevin has stated that the Pearl appears to be a lethal combination, he's not had any survive. I've not seen any adult Pearls the two times I've spent a week there, with full access to their collection, so I don't believe he's keeping that secret.

I am not sure I've seen a picture of a lesser/woma (no hidden gene) combo.

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Originally Posted by rabernet

Kevin has stated that the Pearl appears to be a lethal combination, he's not had any survive. I've not seen any adult Pearls the two times I've spent a week there, with full access to their collection, so I don't believe he's keeping that secret.

I am not sure I've seen a picture of a lesser/woma (no hidden gene) combo.

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Thank you :)

I tought the exact same thing, no pearl survived yet. But I also heard that with other combination, they could survive, but I have never seen any of those, other than the baby lesser pearl from 2006 I think.

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Originally Posted by Watever

Does any one have a picture of a normal woma-lesser ?

Not the ones NERD produced with the hidden-gene but the ones without it.

Does it look like a lesser bee ? Or it's a bit different ?

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http://photos.imageevent.com/corners...amacallit1.jpg

wow thats beautiful

I am sorry to question you Louis but I do not see any of the indicators that I come to associate with Woma in that animal (head patch, moustache, light eye...) Are you cetain on the ID?

Thank you very much Louis !!!

asplundii : There is lot of variation in the woma, like in the spider. With the funky pattern, I think it's one. Remember that lesser will modify the pattern also etc... :)

Wat: Yeah I know Woma have a lot of variation

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r...P6230016_2.jpg

But some of the things are kind of diffinative to the morph... things I would look for in determining a combo. I know Lesser will modify the pattern but I would not expect it to erase all of the traits I have come to associate with a Woma...

Also, I am not trying to say that that animal is not the combo. I am just saying that I do not see it. If Louis can tell me what identifiers he is using I might very well be able to see the combo nature... as it is though that just looks like a really nice Lesser to me

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Originally Posted by asplundii

I am sorry to question you Louis but I do not see any of the indicators that I come to associate with Woma in that animal (head patch, moustache, light eye...) Are you cetain on the ID?

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He was produced by Ballistic Morphs. Here's a pic of his mom that Debbie sent me when I purchased him.

http://photos.imageevent.com/corners...Womalesser.jpg

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Originally Posted by asplundii

... as it is though that just looks like a really nice Lesser to me

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When you see him in person (in snake?) he looks very different from any of the Lessers we have. The pattern is different as are the colors. It's hard to capture his true colors in a photograph. I know because I've tried several times without success. :(

While I'm posting pics, here is one Debbie sent me of his daddy.

http://photos.imageevent.com/corners...Womalesser.jpg

wow thats a cool snake!

Hey Louis,

Thanks for the background... I am still not seeing it but maybe it is just the pics ???


Is dad a Lesser/Pastel?

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Originally Posted by asplundii

Hey Louis,

Thanks for the background... I am still not seeing it but maybe it is just the pics ???


Is dad a Lesser/Pastel?

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Hopefully he will start earning his keep this fall and we can prove him out, although I have no doubt that he is a Woma Lesser.

I was told by Debbie that dad is a Pastel Lesser.

The name of the picture says Pastel Lesser for the dad !

Well, good luck on it :)
I will consider this cross next year may.

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Originally Posted by Watever

The name of the picture says Pastel Lesser for the dad !

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Yeah well... I did not feel like checking that LOL cause my experience is that pics are usually labeled things like PQC3_110904_4 or something like that.

@ Louis,

I am not saying he is not :) Just saying that from the pic I do not see it, probably just cause of the nature of the pic, like you said. Could also be that it is a stand alone pic and if he were side by side with a regular Lesser I would see the difference. :confuzd: Still and all it is a great looking animal

That's not a woma-lesser. Woma-lessers have a light dorsal stripe, they look nothing like Womas, and only a bit like lessers.
That appears to be a lesser, or a pastel-lesser.

This is a woma-lesser: http://www.newenglandreptile.com/ner...s.womless1.jpg

As you can see, there's no mistaking it.

I'm sure it was a lesser from a womaXlesser clutch--I just produced one of those myself--but it's not a carrier of the woma gene.

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Originally Posted by WingedWolfPsion

This is a woma-lesser: http://www.newenglandreptile.com/ner...s.womless1.jpg

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On another forum, someone from NERD told me that this pictures is a Woma-Lesser + Hidden Gene.

Do you have a picture of the one you just hatched ? May be he have the hidden-gene ???

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Originally Posted by WingedWolfPsion

That's not a woma-lesser. Woma-lessers have a light dorsal stripe, they look nothing like Womas, and only a bit like lessers.

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Only from the hidden gene womas crossed with lessers.

Hmm...you may be right. This one from Daytona is labeled as being a woma-lesser:
http://www.ballpythonmorphs.com/daytona06/bhb20.jpg

You can see the woma striping in its pattern.

This is my hatchling, clearly just a lesser:
http://eclipseexotics.wingedwolfpsio...LessMale-2.jpg

NERD should label its photos more specifically, lol.

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Originally Posted by WingedWolfPsion

Hmm...you may be right. This one from Daytona is labeled as being a woma-lesser:
http://www.ballpythonmorphs.com/daytona06/bhb20.jpg

You can see the woma striping in its pattern.

This is my hatchling, clearly just a lesser:
http://eclipseexotics.wingedwolfpsio...LessMale-2.jpg

NERD should label its photos more specifically, lol.

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The animal from the first link looks like the one show here.

As for your lesser, I tought you said it was a woma-lesser with a stripe that you hatched and it wasn't with the hidden-gene :)

But thank you for that first picture. I was looking for those, and couldn't find any hehe :)

Nope, re-read. Just a lesser from a woma-lesser clutch. But 3 noses are still sticking out of eggs, so I'm still hoping! ^_^

I WIN! :banana:

http://eclipseexotics.wingedwolfpsio...sserMale-2.jpg

Is that a woma-lesser ?

well, it doesn't look like the other one, and have some nice pattern.
May be it will be easier to see when he shed and grow a little more.

Definitely is--he is incredible. He's so PALE, I only see faint yellow on him.

I hatched one out that looks just like that. He is very brown and not very stunning looking. I think that the plain old Lesser Woma cross is not that exciting. Just me though.

Brock

To come back on this ! I was watching BHB video on youtube the last days

And I don't remember in wich ones, but we see a woma lesser in it. And it's georgeous Not the most special one, but quite nice. There is one as a baby, and the other time we see it is when he show the breeding for 09. So I wonder what he gonna get