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  • 07-15-2009, 05:21 PM
    CoolioTiffany
    Do you really NEED to cool the tank at night?
    I hear that many breeders cool the enclosures at night a month or two prior to breeding. Do you really need too? Or can your males just mate with the females, not needed the cooling? I don't really get it..
  • 07-15-2009, 05:26 PM
    PythonWallace
    Re: Do you really NEED to cool the tank at night?
    Some people say it's not absolutely necessary, but it is supposedly one of the triggers that gives males the signal to start producing sperm, and females the signal to start producing follicles. Day/night light cycles and atmospheric/barometric pressure are the other triggers. The idea is to try to replicate natural conditions of the winter, then spring months in Ghana, Togo and Benin, where ball pythons come from.
  • 07-15-2009, 05:30 PM
    waltah!
    Re: Do you really NEED to cool the tank at night?
    I know that some folks do, and some don't. I only had a single clutch this year, and I didn't do any cooling. Those eggs pipped today, so I guess it worked out for me. I'll have 6 or 7 pairings next season and probably will not cool them.
  • 07-15-2009, 05:30 PM
    Friday2214
    Re: Do you really NEED to cool the tank at night?
    i read the sticky on this today, saying you didnt have to cool at night. but as far as myself i dont breed so i dont really know
  • 07-15-2009, 05:40 PM
    DesignerBP
    Re: Do you really NEED to cool the tank at night?
    i didnt cool last season and i had no trouble getting mine to breed
  • 07-15-2009, 05:43 PM
    CoolioTiffany
    Re: Do you really NEED to cool the tank at night?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by waltah! View Post
    I know that some folks do, and some don't. I only had a single clutch this year, and I didn't do any cooling. Those eggs pipped today, so I guess it worked out for me. I'll have 6 or 7 pairings next season and probably will not cool them.

    That sounds exciting:) you should post up some pictures of them if they hatched, and if they are still in the eggs I would be glad to see them anyway:)
  • 07-15-2009, 05:55 PM
    West Coast Jungle
    Re: Do you really NEED to cool the tank at night?
    Most any home will naturally be cooler in the winter months as opposed to the summer. This can be enough to get them going. Some breeders also reduce hot side temps as well.

    I have cooled and not and still had similar success. My snake room also gets naturally cooler in the winter.

    I have some snakes lay in Janurary and some in late September kept in the exact same conditions so i think they go when they want to, not when we do.
  • 07-15-2009, 06:33 PM
    waltah!
    Re: Do you really NEED to cool the tank at night?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BallPythonLOVER View Post
    That sounds exciting:) you should post up some pictures of them if they hatched, and if they are still in the eggs I would be glad to see them anyway:)

    Here's a bad pic of a Pastel chillin in the egg. I'll make a thread up later with some better pics.

    http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/j...t/IMG_0075.jpg
  • 07-15-2009, 06:40 PM
    rabernet
    Re: Do you really NEED to cool the tank at night?
    I do not artificially cool my snakes for breeding.
  • 07-15-2009, 06:43 PM
    nicktreb
    Re: Do you really NEED to cool the tank at night?
    definitly dont NEED to..
  • 07-15-2009, 06:44 PM
    CoolioTiffany
    Re: Do you really NEED to cool the tank at night?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by waltah! View Post
    Here's a bad pic of a Pastel chillin in the egg. I'll make a thread up later with some better pics.

    http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/j...t/IMG_0075.jpg

    It's still looks pretty cool. I think any picture of a snake is cool, even if it's a little blurry:) Good luck with that Pastel:D
  • 07-15-2009, 06:45 PM
    Stewart_Reptiles
    Re: Do you really NEED to cool the tank at night?
    Some people do some people don't.

    When it comes to breeding there are many different ways to do it, the most important thing is to find what works for you and your animals.

    I live at about an hour away from Robin (Rabernet) and unlike her I happen to cool my snakes and have had great success doing so those past 2 seasons, while she has had great success not doing so. ;)
  • 07-15-2009, 06:53 PM
    paulaura
    Re: Do you really NEED to cool the tank at night?
    We personally have never cooled our royals and have hatched out quite afew clutches successfully.:gj:
  • 07-15-2009, 07:09 PM
    MarkS
    Re: Do you really NEED to cool the tank at night?
    I don't cool mine for breeding, but then again I live up north so it naturally gets cooler during my breeding season then it would in other parts of the country. However I really don't think it makes that big of a difference. A ball pythons natural range is right at the equator so they don't go through seasonal temperature extremes OR varying light levels throughout the year and they breed just fine in the wild.
  • 07-15-2009, 07:31 PM
    rabernet
    Re: Do you really NEED to cool the tank at night?
    I personally believe that barometric pressure changes are more of a trigger than temperature changes. When weather systems roll in, that's when they get in the mood. Breeding season in Africa is the rainy season, when the barometric pressures change when the rains come in.
  • 07-15-2009, 08:13 PM
    Sloanreptiles
    Re: Do you really NEED to cool the tank at night?
    We personally think cooling is important just because we tried breeding without cooling and didnt get as much luck we got a lot of breeding but we didnt get that many clutches. If you have a few pairs it probably isnt that important, we bred 55 females this season and only 15 of those 55 layed eggs and that was without cooling. Hope this helps:gj:
  • 07-16-2009, 09:10 AM
    Littlemansboids
    Re: Do you really NEED to cool the tank at night?
    Im going to be breesing next year, and i have read it is not needed.
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