Don't underestimate the evil powers of PETA

Not sure where this should go, but I want to make sure plenty see what is going on. Often times people on this forum make the mistake of assuming PETA is on our side. Allow me to share this quote with you....

taken from this story http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,...est=latestnews

In response to the senator's proposal, officials from the People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals suggested that Nelson focus on banning the import and private ownership of pythons.

"Because as long as individuals are allowed to acquire these exotic animals, they will continue to be abandoned outdoors and attack humans,"


Wow. This is the most ignorant thing I have ever heard them say. A two year old girl was killed by a PET Burmese python in her house. I am so tired of the idea that these are overly agressive, human killing, on the loose, abandoned snakes. When was the last time a human was killed or attacked by a python in the wild in FL?

What is up with these blanket statements about "pythons"?! If you want to ban burm pythons in florida, go for it. There is a serious problem and it would probably be a step in the right direction. Hunt down and euthanize the wild ones that are out there now to the best of your ability. Allow no future sales of burms in Fl, and allow people to keep current pets under the current laws that requires a permit. Crack down on the existing rules and make sure everyone does have their required permit. To get out of paying the annual permit fees, make the people turn in a dead snake. Do damage control. Organize an annual hunt of wild burms during the best months to hunt them. Make sure the remains are used for something (use the skins... eat the meat)

But why in the world does it make sense to apply this ban to ALL PYTHONS including Americas number one pet snake (ball pythons) that has nothing to do with the problems in Fl, or anywhere else?

Let me rewrite this whole article in dog language... (most people understand this language better then snake language)

U.S. Sen. Bill Nelson is calling for tens of thousands of hunting dogs believed to be in the Everglades to be hunted and killed, a proposal blasted by animal rights advocates.

Nelson sent a letter on Tuesday to Interior Secretary Ken Salazar, asking for permission to have deputized agents and volunteers kill as many of the hunting dogs as possible during an organized hunt.

The senator's request comes after a 2-year-old central Florida girl was attacked by an unregistered pet beagle in her home.

Nelson hosted Salazar on a tour of the Everglades last month, in which he advised the secretary of the dog problem. He estimated as much as 100,000 of the hunting dogs may be in the park.

In response to the senator's proposal, officials from the People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals suggested that Nelson focus on banning the import and private ownership of all hunting dogs.

"Because as long as individuals are allowed to acquire these hunting dogs, they will continue to be abandoned outdoors and attack humans," PETA said in a statement obtained by FOXNews.com. "These animals have ended up in Florida through no fault of their own, and they should be dealt with in the most humane way possible."

Their goal, well hidden but there, is to eliminate ALL pets.

It's as simple as that.

Their founder is alive because of animal testing.

The lies out of that organization rival those of our worst politicians.

PETA not only wants to end all pet ownership, which they often refer to as slavery, they want to grant animals equal rights under the law with people.

I'm a vegetarian and I don't even support PETA. They give a lot of vegetarians a bad name. They lie and will do anything to support their cause. I'm pretty sure I've read an article a while back involving PETA euthanizing puppies in a pretty horrible way only to use the film and blame it on something else. Just remember not all of us vegetarians are crazy PETA supporters. ;)

How can anyone forget this...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8255324

I think Im going to eat a steak today. And a non free range chicken breast. And maybe buy my wife a fur. Probably not though.

PETA started off as a great thing they were keeping the movie industry from abusing animals for the purpose of making a movie. However they figured out that there's big money to be made in fuzzy feel good ideas and so they lost sight of the true problem.

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Originally Posted by wilomn

Their goal, well hidden but there, is to eliminate ALL pets.

It's as simple as that.

Their founder is alive because of animal testing.

The lies out of that organization rival those of our worst politicians.

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Hey, we agree on something! :8:

But seriously, I wonder how an organization so fanatical about completely self-serving legislation has such a powerful word in our congress. Shouldn't we as responsible citizens have just as much say? Yet it seems that people like Sen. Nelson don't really look at the big picture and everyone affected by it. Then again we showed our worth with the letter writing campaigns before and I'm sure we'll do it again and again. Thanks to USARK and all those other guys out there on our side.:salute:

The real problem is that most people (like me until recently) assume when they hear "PETA" that they are good hearted people that just want to make sure animals are not being abused. While this may have been true at one point it isn't true now. Now they are fanatics that are WAY out there.

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Originally Posted by Mike Cavanaugh

The real problem is that most people (like me until recently) assume when they hear "PETA" that they are good hearted people that just want to make sure animals are not being abused. While this may have been true at one point it isn't true now. Now they are fanatics that are WAY out there.

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When they started throwing paint on fur wearers way back when, I knew then their would be a problem.

People
Eating
Tasty
Animals
Yes I am a hunter!
PS: I like to catch and eat fish also!

Please support USARK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And the NRA!

PETA really only serves their own use. I saw that a certain store chain here was selling bad bedding and i tried to contact their HQ and the store told me pretty much oh well. So I tried to get hold of peta and elt them know a dangerous beddings was being sold and they told me same thing pretty much.

PETA is a disgusting organization that has no place in a civilized society. It's sad how many people are foolish enough to dump money and time into their sick agendas. I had heard about the "loony lefties" of PETA but it wasn't until I started owning Pit Bulls that I really started hearing about the garbage they pull. It's pretty sick.

http://www.petakillsanimals.com/

I would just like to remind people before this gets out of control.
BP.net is a large community.
There are a lot of mis-represented views of the herp world on the media out there right now.
I would hate for someone to say something that might go into the media and misrepresent the herp world and shine a bad light on us.
While it's fine to discuss PETA intelligently (which for the most part this thread is doing very well at), please consider how something you might say on this large, public forum could impact us if taken wrong.

That's all, I'm not saying anyone has said anything wrong, but there is huge potential in such a topic that is so important and emotional to all of us.

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Originally Posted by Corvid

I would just like to remind people before this gets out of control.
BP.net is a large community.
There are a lot of mis-represented views of the herp world on the media out there right now.
I would hate for someone to say something that might go into the media and misrepresent the herp world and shine a bad light on us.
While it's fine to discuss PETA intelligently (which for the most part this thread is doing very well at), please consider how something you might say on this large, public forum could impact us if taken wrong.

That's all, I'm not saying anyone has said anything wrong, but there is huge potential in such a topic that is so important and emotional to all of us.

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If the media cared what we thought there might be more public debate over the legislation rather than just hearings with Nelson and PETA. I also don't feel that we have any obligation to go easy on PETA. Hell, listen to reptile radio, they rip on PETA and USHS every episode (within obvious limits of decency), don't see media giving that any attention. I guess you raise a good point, but I'm having a hard time thinking of anything anyone could say that would widely affect us without being blatantly out of line and thus not representative of the forum as a whole.

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Originally Posted by Mike Cavanaugh

Now they are fanatics that are WAY out there.

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You have no idea. I remember reading an article where someone high up in the organization was talking about branching out into the ethical treatment of plants. She mentioned being able to hear wheat scream as she drove by a field that was being harvested. :8:

There they go again.

Add me to the list of Vegetarians who can't stand PETA.

They have a good message, but they go overboard. I think responsible pet ownership should be enforced, but to ban all pets? What's next? Ban all draft horses in under-developed countries? Ban seeing-eye dogs?

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Originally Posted by TheKingInYellow

Add me to the list of Vegetarians who can't stand PETA.

They have a good message, but they go overboard. I think responsible pet ownership should be enforced, but to ban all pets? What's next? Ban all draft horses in under-developed countries? Ban seeing-eye dogs?

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Seeing eye dogs ARE on their list of animals that should not be.....of service.

What I've read about PETA sounds like it comes out of a sci-fi thriller movie where a crazy organization takes over the world.:rofl::rofl:

Its not a laughing matter though, it really scares me that PETA is so involved in politics. At least USARK is helping to balance out PETA's actions on Capital Hill.

Well I guess with something like PETA, crazy or not, they are a political entity. They have to stay on message 24/7. If they say you can't have seeing-eye dogs, well they always have to say you can't have them.

Any change in their message will be seen as waffling and will be pounced on by their opponents.

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Originally Posted by TheKingInYellow

Well I guess with something like PETA, crazy or not, they are a political entity. They have to stay on message 24/7. If they say you can't have seeing-eye dogs, well they always have to say you can't have them.

Any change in their message will be seen as waffling and will be pounced on by their opponents.

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Unless they're sneaky.

Unless they lie.

Unless the truth of their goals are hidden from the general not going to read more than a paragraph no matter how much I should, public.

Should those be the case, which in fact they are, then you will see them saying one thing, doing another, and lying about both.

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Originally Posted by wilomn

Unless they're sneaky.

Unless they lie.

Unless the truth of their goals are hidden from the general not going to read more than a paragraph no matter how much I should, public.

Should those be the case, which in fact they are, then you will see them saying one thing, doing another, and lying about both.

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Yea that fine print is a bugger. I mean their idea of creditability is about as as extensive as "No I'm not a Biologist but I did stay in a Holiday in Express last night"

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

"No I'm not a Biologist but I did stay in a Holiday in Express last night"

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LMAO...

you should add... "with a black light"

For every animal you don't eat, I'm going to eat three. :taz: