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  • 07-11-2009, 07:04 PM
    Bill Buchman
    Caramel Mojave -- Pre Shed
    The lighter/larger girl's pics really don't do her justice. I could not capture her many hues with my point and shoot. I promise I will be getting a "real camera" before post-shed pics!!! There are a few more photos in my album.

    Enjoy... :D


    *****Header should read Pre-Shed of course!!!!!*****


    https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/files/7/2/3/7/cm_1.jpg
    https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil..._20_510724.jpg
    https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...re-shed_21.jpg
    https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...re-shed_17.jpg
    https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...pre-shed_5.jpg
    https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...pre-shed_8.jpg
    https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...pre-shed_3.jpg
  • 07-11-2009, 07:21 PM
    Stewart_Reptiles
    Re: Caramel Mojave -- Post Shed
  • 07-11-2009, 07:24 PM
    coldbloodaddict
    Re: Caramel Mojave -- Post Shed
    Very Nice!!! Love the Blushing.
  • 07-11-2009, 07:38 PM
    jkobylka
    Re: Caramel Mojave -- Post Shed
    Those are amazing. Great job bill!

    Justin
  • 07-11-2009, 08:39 PM
    Sloanreptiles
    Re: Caramel Mojave -- Post Shed
    WOW those are amazing! Congrats!:gj:
  • 07-11-2009, 08:41 PM
    Lolo76
    Re: Caramel Mojave -- Post Shed
    Gorgeous snakes!! They almost look like pewters, but even prettier... :)
  • 07-11-2009, 08:43 PM
    PythonWallace
    Re: Caramel Mojave -- Post Shed
    Those are awesome man. Thanks for sharing.
  • 07-11-2009, 08:44 PM
    JLC
    Re: Caramel Mojave -- Post Shed
    Wow! I love what those two color combos did for each other! Can't wait to see 'em grow and see how they change. Please keep us in the loop on these beauties!!
  • 07-11-2009, 09:39 PM
    The Cleaner
    Re: Caramel Mojave -- Post Shed
    AWESOME...they look amazing! :banana:
  • 07-11-2009, 09:42 PM
    CoolioTiffany
    Re: Caramel Mojave -- Post Shed
    Just so amazing. Those are some great lookin' babies. Keep us updated on them, and I would absolutely love to see them after the shed. :)
  • 07-11-2009, 10:47 PM
    Exotic Python Designs
    Re: Caramel Mojave -- Post Shed
    WOW!! They look awesome! Congrats dude...they are nice ball pythons. That’s was a great project. They sort of look like the Super Phantom but both are definitely great looking snakes!
  • 07-12-2009, 12:37 AM
    briz
    Re: Caramel Mojave -- Post Shed
    OMG!!!! I don't like Mojo's, but those things are sweet. Reminds me somewhat of the super phantoms.
  • 07-12-2009, 01:03 AM
    Bill Buchman
    Re: Caramel Mojave -- Post Shed
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Skullsjome View Post
    WOW!! They look awesome! Congrats dude...they are nice ball pythons. That’s was a great project. They sort of look like the Super Phantom but both are definitely great looking snakes!

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by briz View Post
    OMG!!!! I don't like Mojo's, but those things are sweet. Reminds me somewhat of the super phantoms.

    They do resemble pink/mauve Phantoms I think as well. I am looking forward to their sheds and coloring up as they age. The blushed girl is STUNNING in person and as close to pink as we have seen I think.

    As with most morphs, Caramel Mojaves will certain be variable in color and pattern. This first pair is different for sure -- almost a light phase and dark phase. It will be interesting to see the range as more are produced. If they get better than this girl -- I'm not sure I could handle it. :rolleye2:
  • 07-12-2009, 03:23 AM
    RockingRoyals
    Re: Caramel Mojave -- Post Shed
    Damn Bill, those are some real stunners!!! They really look different from what i thought a Caramel Mojave would look like. They look much better!!!!
  • 07-12-2009, 03:29 AM
    snake-zone.dk
    Re: Caramel Mojave -- Post Shed
    Great work Bill... another cool combo... U rock.. :P
  • 07-12-2009, 03:29 AM
    Jsh
    Re: Caramel Mojave -- Post Shed
    I guessed hypo mojo and I'm so glad I was wrong!:stupidme: Those are beautiful snakes, Congrats Bill!:bow:
  • 07-12-2009, 09:23 AM
    cbentley
    Re: Caramel Mojave -- Post Shed
    holy crap! New favorite Morph combo! They look awesome.

    Caleb
  • 07-12-2009, 10:45 AM
    Jyson
    Re: Caramel Mojave -- Post Shed
    WH:OA! :omfg:
    That is too hot for words! :bow::worship:
  • 07-12-2009, 10:50 AM
    Jason Bowden
    Re: Caramel Mojave -- Post Shed
    Sorry Ralphie, I nominate Bill as the new ball python king!
  • 07-12-2009, 12:47 PM
    Kysenia
    Re: Caramel Mojave -- Post Shed
    ummmmmmmmmmmm omg?:)
  • 07-12-2009, 12:56 PM
    waltah!
    Re: Caramel Mojave -- Post Shed
    Bill, those are just crazy cool. I'm sure we won't forget to remind you for updated pics;)
  • 07-12-2009, 01:05 PM
    RoyalVariations
    Re: Caramel Mojave -- Post Shed
    Bill,

    congrats to you,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, :gj:

    there is one thing that you can not deny,,,,,,,,,,, Caramels make "AMAZING" combos. the best part is,,,,,,,,, they get better with age, :bow:

    again Bill, congrats,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
  • 07-12-2009, 02:04 PM
    Bill Buchman
    Re: Caramel Mojave -- Post Shed
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RoyalVariations View Post
    Bill,

    congrats to you,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, :gj:

    there is one thing that you can not deny,,,,,,,,,,, Caramels make "AMAZING" combos. the best part is,,,,,,,,, they get better with age, :bow:

    again Bill, congrats,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

    Thanks for the kind words Kyle! I know you are working with the Caramel gene as well. Agree that they do get better with age -- which is scary when you consider what the Caramel Mojaves look like before their first shed. :O

    My Caramel Mojave breeding could not have gone better this year. I just had another big ovulation yesterday from Pos Het for Glow girl yesterday.

    However, my other Caramel projects have not gone anywhere -- yet.:mad:

    I have a STUNNING Upscale male who has been doing his part breeding 4-5 codom girls -- I would like to produce some Upscale Hets for the future. None of the girls have ovulated. I feel bad for the male. He is so pretty and been such a great breeder. lol The Ball Gods work in mysterious ways. :confused:

    Good luck with your projects the rest of season.:gj:
  • 07-12-2009, 02:21 PM
    RoyalVariations
    Re: Caramel Mojave -- Post Shed
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bill Buchman View Post
    Thanks for the kind words Kyle! I know you are working with the Caramel gene as well. Agree that they do get better with age -- which is scary when you consider what the Caramel Mojaves look like before their first shed. :O

    My Caramel Mojave breeding could not have gone better this year. I just had another big ovulation yesterday from Pos Het for Glow girl yesterday.

    However, my other Caramel projects have not gone anywhere -- yet.:mad:

    I have a STUNNING Upscale male who has been doing his part breeding 4-5 codom girls -- I would like to produce some Upscale Hets for the future. None of the girls have ovulated. I feel bad for the male. He is so pretty and been such a great breeder. lol The Ball Gods work in mysterious ways. :confused:

    Good luck with your projects the rest of season.:gj:

    hang in there,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, your efforts will be worth it, :gj:

    you are an excellent breeder and as you have already proven Caramel Mojaves are "beautiful". please keep us updated on your projects as they unfold.

    Upscale, ahhhhhhhhhhh you are right about those beauties, :bow:

    thanks again for sharing your incredible Caramel Mojaves. EXCELLENT JOB! ;)
  • 07-12-2009, 02:52 PM
    West Coast Jungle
    Re: Caramel Mojave -- Post Shed
    Just an amazing project Bill. They should continue to look more and more amazing with time. They are gonna be fun to watch grow. Congrats:gj:
  • 07-12-2009, 04:06 PM
    FL0OD
    Re: Caramel Mojave -- Post Shed
    STUNNING!!! :sweeet:
  • 07-13-2009, 01:24 PM
    dragondavy
    Re: Caramel Mojave -- Post Shed
    These are looking so beautiful, Congrats!!:gj:
  • 07-13-2009, 03:01 PM
    hud556
    Re: Caramel Mojave -- Post Shed
    Amazing!!!
  • 07-13-2009, 04:27 PM
    Albey
    Re: Caramel Mojave -- Post Shed
    Man I dig those big time, very cool! Please post new ones when they are really Post Shed.:rofl:
  • 07-13-2009, 04:35 PM
    Bill Buchman
    Re: Caramel Mojave -- Post Shed
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Albey View Post
    Man I dig those big time, very cool! Please post new ones when they are really Post Shed.:rofl:

    Will do Albey. ;) I had an "idea :confused:" what the combo would look like -- they exceeded my expectation. :banana:

    I would have edited the header if I new how/ or could??? Should have shed pics in a week or so. :D
  • 07-13-2009, 04:58 PM
    AaronP
    Re: Caramel Mojave -- Post Shed
    Woooo! I can't wait to see them at 1500 Grams!
  • 07-13-2009, 08:20 PM
    Bill Buchman
    Re: Caramel Mojave -- Post Shed
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AaronP View Post
    Woooo! I can't wait to see them at 1500 Grams!

    Neither can I Aaron. :cool: I would suspect that they will increase in both color AND contrast. First things first -- let them shed and get them fed. :gj:
  • 07-13-2009, 08:29 PM
    MarkS
    Re: Caramel Mojave -- Post Shed
    Wow Bill, it looks like you're really having a great year so far. These are just incredible. I can already see all the different colors in them, that should only get better with age. I'll bet they're really iridescent in person.
  • 07-13-2009, 08:42 PM
    Bill Buchman
    Re: Caramel Mojave -- Post Shed
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MarkS View Post
    Wow Bill, it looks like you're really having a great year so far. These are just incredible. I can already see all the different colors in them, that should only get better with age. I'll bet they're really iridescent in person.

    Thanks for the kind words Mark. :) I can't complain about my season. I still have locks and ovulations happening. Strange however, that just like last season, almost all my codom girls are going to go LAST -- if at all. Last season many of them were younger -- so I understood -- this year not so much -- many are 3+years of age. :confused:

    I did have the prettiest of my Graziani Cinnys that I paired with a Cajun Butter ovulate yesterday -- maybe she will "signal" her codom girlfriends to do the same soon. ;)
  • 07-13-2009, 09:43 PM
    RandyRemington
    Re: Caramel Mojave -- Post Shed
    Glad I was clued in to venture out of the morph forum. I always expected these to be awesome but they are nicer and a bit different. I was thinking purple (and maybe they yet will be with age) but didn't expect the pink or the variation within the pattern.

    A huge congratulations!

    So if you get a caramel glow are you going to cross it into these? lol, no rest!
  • 07-13-2009, 09:45 PM
    TankMasterOG
    Re: Caramel Mojave -- Post Shed
    Very nice good job...
  • 07-13-2009, 10:08 PM
    Bill Buchman
    Re: Caramel Mojave -- Post Shed
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RandyRemington View Post
    Glad I was clued in to venture out of the morph forum. I always expected these to be awesome but they are nicer and a bit different. I was thinking purple (and maybe they yet will be with age) but didn't expect the pink or the variation within the pattern.

    A huge congratulations!

    So if you get a caramel glow are you going to cross it into these? lol, no rest!

    Thanks Randy! They are not quite what I expected either -- pinker -- more reduced pattern -- BLUSHING -- they really do look like Pink Super Phantom -- at least to my eyes.

    Assuming I can get this guy and/or another male, if I am fortunate enough to get another, breeding next year -- I can't think what morph I "wouldn't want to work him into. :gj:

    I do have some Hypo plans of course -- as well as a couple other pretty girls in mind.:salute:

    I gamble a bit with breeding a bit -- for good or bad. :confused:

    I have 2 100% Het Hypo 50% Caramel girls I have paired my Mohave Het breeder with. Will hold girls produced for down the road -- could pay off this year and in coming years. Could hit a Caramel Mojave male 50% Hypo and pair him with a Hypo girl next spring since I want to produce some Hypo Hets anyway -- and hope lightning strikes!!! :O
  • 07-13-2009, 10:11 PM
    Watever
    Re: Caramel Mojave -- Post Shed
    Nice !

    Just do not forget to post pictures after they shed too :)
  • 07-13-2009, 10:43 PM
    joepythons
    Re: Caramel Mojave -- Post Shed
    O my god they are sweeeeeettttt :cool::cool::cool:
  • 07-13-2009, 11:11 PM
    ItsMichael805
    Re: Caramel Mojave -- Post Shed
    wow those are sweet!!
  • 07-13-2009, 11:33 PM
    DesignerBP
    Re: Caramel Mojave -- Pre Shed
    those are some smooth lookin snakes
  • 07-13-2009, 11:33 PM
    tigerlily
    Re: Caramel Mojave -- Post Shed
    OMG Bill those are GORGEOUS!!! I blame Matt for making me want an echi to go with my lesser girl, now I have you to blame for the need to pick up a mojave male too. :rolleyes:

    LOVE THEM!!!!! CONGRATS!!!! :bow:
  • 07-14-2009, 12:00 AM
    Bill Buchman
    Re: Caramel Mojave -- Post Shed
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tigerlily View Post
    OMG Bill those are GORGEOUS!!! I blame Matt for making me want an echi to go with my lesser girl, now I have you to blame for the need to pick up a mojave male too. :rolleyes:

    LOVE THEM!!!!! CONGRATS!!!! :bow:

    Matt has great looking Enchi stock -- and his Lessers ain't bad either. :gj:;)

    Good luck with your "compulsion' Mojave search Christie. :D
  • 07-14-2009, 04:50 AM
    Crazy4Herps
    Re: Caramel Mojave -- Pre Shed
    I don't know if there is anything I wouldn't do for a caramel mojo... incredible! :gj:
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