"Pretty In Pink"

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wow..:O

What are those? Pewters? They are drool-worthy. lol. Please tell me your secret :(

I want :)

I wish I was you....

Okay Bill, stop teasing us and come clean. What do you have there? They look pretty awesome in the egg... super Cajuns?

:O:O Those are awesome!
Hypo Mojo?

Cajun Butters???

my guess.......Caramel Mojaves?

Winner gets prize?

Caleb

super pastel lessers?

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Originally Posted by cbentley

my guess.......Caramel Mojaves?

Winner gets prize?

Caleb

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Great idea!!! how about pick of the clutch:D

Mojave Caramels...SWEET!!!

Big Congrats Bill!

Can't wait until they're out.

OMFG Congrats bill on another awesome hatch:gj:

Caramel Mojaves? Badass!

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Originally Posted by cbentley

my guess.......Caramel Mojaves?

Winner gets prize?

Caleb

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Originally Posted by coldbloodaddict

Mojave Caramels...SWEET!!!

Big Congrats Bill!

Can't wait until they're out.

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Gentlemen, you would both be correct.:gj: I know what most everyone is wondering...they are out of the egg and are PERFECT in every way. :banana::banana::banana:

I have been over them 7-8 times looking for that thing (I dare not utter its' name) we always need to look for when working with Caramels. The last time I had them out I swear the girl looked at me as if to hiss, "What is your deal, dude?" :snake:

I will post new pics on Saturday. The female is the larger -- lighter of the 2 and is STUNNING.

Below are a couple shots of entire clutch while still in the egg.

5 eggs: 1.1 Caramel Mojaves and 1.2 Mojaves 66% Het.

I hope I did not ruin my odds on this project for the rest of the season with this first clutch.:confused:


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Bill, congratulations! I can't wait to see them all cleaned up and out of the egg!!!

GULP! :O
:gj::) Congrats!

....I need a Mojave...from THAT clutch. ;)

Congrats Bill I'm gonna go out on a limb and say this is a first right?

Amazing Bill, you did it, very happy for ya!

Congrats and Thanks for sharing:)

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Originally Posted by Royal Morphz

Congrats Bill I'm gonna go out on a limb and say this is a first right?

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Yes Tim it is. You never know who is working on something in secret.

The Sutherland's produced 2 Mohave Het males in 07. I picked up my male from him in Anaheim of that year -- all 62 grams of him. ;) He kept the other male. I "believe" his male bred for him in 08, but did not sire a clutch -- I am not 100% sure of that fact. :confused:

My male was a tentative breeder last season -- even though he was 700+ grams for much of the season. He sired one normal clutch and produced 2.0 Mojaves 50% Het and 4 50% Het females.

My male is an ANIMAL with the ladies this season -- what a difference a year makes!!!

I assume that Dan is doing some breeding with his guy this season? I am expecting a few more clutches and have 2 clutches cooking as we speak. Time will tell on what comes from those breedings/clutches. :confused:

Simply amazing, Bill! I wasn't gonna guess earlier because I am always wrong when it comes to these combos. lol

Those look amazing...congrats Bill!

Congrats Bill. They look pretty sweet. Did you incubate those eggs a bit drier or cooler? Just wondering.

Wow! So are they shed and eating yet? lol, I've been waiting 7-8 years to see these so guess I can wait a bit more. Congratulations!

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Originally Posted by muddoc

Congrats Bill. They look pretty sweet. Did you incubate those eggs a bit drier or cooler? Just wondering.

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Thanks Tim. I believe in sharing info so that others might be more successful. The "SSSHHHHH/secret thing" is something I am not a big fan of to say the least. :colbert: So here is the back story.

I did not go drier. I set these up the same as every other clutch this season. I go with the egg crate, perlite, and Press N' Seal in a closed shoe box with NO BREATHING until I remove the plastic at 50 days.

I did go cooler. I put this clutch at the BOTTOM my large, standing floral display cooker. Thermostat was set at 87 degrees with probe hanging in the middle of the incubator. I cut at 57 days and they came out at 59.

This clutch is from a Mojave SK Het x Nerd 100% Het Carmel 50% PH Ghost. While the female is yet to be proven for Glow -- 50% is half a chance. :gj: The reality is that the Caramel Mojaves could be Het for Ghost -- or Glow in the case of the 3 Mojaves. Fun stuff to play with for sure.:D

Thanks to ALL for your kind words. :colbert2::colbert2::colbert2:

The plan is to get some "decent" pics today with my point and shoot Kodak. I have been planning to get a "real camera"-- if this occasion does not warrant it -- I don't know what would.:confused:

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Wow! So are they shed and eating yet? lol, I've been waiting 7-8 years to see these so guess I can wait a bit more. Congratulations!

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I know you have been waiting a LONGGGG time to see these Randy. I "suspect" the pre-shed shots I hope to post today will tide you over. I think you will like the result.:)

Cant wait to see these out of the eggs.:banana:

Very nice looking litttle babies. Can't wait to see pics of them out of the eggs.

Super Phantom? Or super Pasel Lesser?:O

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Originally Posted by Bill Buchman

I know you have been waiting a LONGGGG time to see these Randy. I "suspect" the pre-shed shots I hope to post today will tide you over. I think you will like the result.:)

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I'm sure I will! I'm glad everyone doesn't do things as half a__ed as me and you invested in this project (and TSK id the cross to produce your male). I bred my pet store wanabe mojave (actually something new) to a 66% chance het caramel in 2002 and 2003 but never got eggs so I wasn't making any progress on seeing them for myself.

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Originally Posted by Viperidae

Super Phantom? Or super Pasel Lesser?:O

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Caramel Mojave!!

They look awesome!

Caleb

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Originally Posted by Royal Morphz

Congrats Bill I'm gonna go out on a limb and say this is a first right?

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There's a Caramel Mojave pictured in the Barker's latest ball python book, says it was produced by Dan and Collette.

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Originally Posted by skm0308

There's a Caramel Mojave pictured in the Barker's latest ball python book, says it was produced by Dan and Collette.

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That is a Hypo Mojave that has the incorrect name on it. :)

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Originally Posted by Bill Buchman

That is a Hypo Mojave that has the incorrect name on it. :)

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Thanks for the clarification Bill!

Oh man, congrats!!!! I can't wait for pics out of the eggs :bow:

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Originally Posted by Isis

Oh man, congrats!!!! I can't wait for pics out of the eggs :bow:

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Stephanie, You can see them in picture section -- post-shed pice in a week. :)

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Originally Posted by coldbloodaddict

Mojave Caramels...SWEET!!!

Big Congrats Bill!

Can't wait until they're out.

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Exactly what I was thinking! WooooooO! :banana::banana::banana: