Going to KC Reptile Show.. what to get??

I will be going to the reptile show in overland park this weekend and I want to know what people think would be a good buy. I will probably end up spending around $200 and I am looking to get ball pythons. I already have several snakes and I got three ball pythons, 1.2, but they are all normals. I want to get a color morph to add some color to my collection and breed it eventually. Should I get a male, female? and what morph would be good? I was thinking spider or pastel or some codom type because I can get more of the same color type by breeding.

First of all i am assuming you already have an enclosure set up,
If not that leaves you with a lot less money.
But, if you have the enclosure i would say go for a male pastel.

Yeah, I have a rack system that I built and I am going to build another one within the next couple of weeks. I almost have the one full, but there are a few spaces for another snake or two :) I may have to post pics of my setup on here eventually when I get to it. I was thinking about a male pastel then I could get some other normal females there also. We'll see what happens, I will post what I get though!

Blood pythons, all the way. :gj:

But, if you're looking for a ball... are you talking baby or juvie or adult? You could probably find a hatchling male spider for $200, probably not an adult.

Pastels are cool, but they fade out so much. If I were to get a pastel, I'd get a super bright hatchling so that even if it did fade out, it would be a nice-looking adult; such as a NERD lemon pastel. However, that may cost you a bit over $200.

Did you go today or or you going tomorrow? We didn't get to go today as we had mowing to do. :rolleyes: But we'll be there tomorrow.

As for what to get. Hmmm, I would probably get a male spider if you can find a nice one for that price there.

Good luck and let us know if you got something. :gj:

I was just there earlier!!! Have fun!!!

They had baby pastels for sale for $200.

I was asking myself this questions as well lol. I think a Pastel, Spider, or Cinnamon would be a great choice. You can get each for about $200+, but most Pastels will be under $200. If you wanted a really beautiful bright Pastel, you'd probably be spending over $200. Honestly, I like the Spiders and Cinnamons, but Pastels cost less so if you don't want to spend a lot of money I would say go for the Pastel. They are still a beautiful morph(:

Depending on size, if you wanted a BP that would be around 4 feet as an adult, go for a male. Females are larger than males, but if you wanted one that gets large like 5-6 feet go for a female (:

well if u already have normal females, then get a co dom that u like.... ie: pastel or a spider, but think about what morphs u really like and start a project!!

Ok, so I went to the show today and spent more money then planned...you know how it goes... plan on spending a little then spend a lot lol. I got a pastel male that is possible het for hypo and a poss. het hypo female as well. It would be nice if they prove out, but I won't know for a couple years because they are both pretty fresh(you can still see the scar from their umbillical cords. The pastel is pretty bright and the het hypo female looks great as well. She has a very yellow underside, like a yellowbelly, I will post pics of the two eventually, but they are both great. I got a good deal on the pair. I also bought a pair of pastel boas from a breeder from omaha. They are little as well as you can see their scars as well. I was kind of disappointed in the number of balls that they had there. There were way more boas than ball pythons which I thought would be the opposite, but it was a good time. I will get pics up as soon as I can. :D

UGH!

i really wanted to go to this show, but i couldn't make it! i live really far away... all the way down on 103rd and metcalf lol!

i wish i coulda made it!

I drove 3.5 hours to get to this show. If you live in town then you should have no problem getting there. It is going on tomorrow 7/12 as well.

Yes there was a lot of boas there. But at least they did seem to have more vendors than usual. Since it's a show that they have every other month sometimes it seemed hard to get people to vend there every time. I saw some really nice male spiders for $200.
I was in hopes of getting a female Bloodred Corn Snake which it seems no one had. Oh well, the babies are still pretty small this time of year so I'll wait. :)

Glad to hear you got something you really liked. And can't wait to see pictures!

ye, the show was great, there was alot to see! the gators were cool and i would say that pet worlds stand was by far the best!

They had gators there?? I didn't get to see those, must have missed them. Which stand was pet world's? Was that the one with mister and dragon all the way in the back or was it right down the center?

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Originally Posted by jordy1380

They had gators there?? I didn't get to see those, must have missed them. Which stand was pet world's? Was that the one with mister and dragon all the way in the back or was it right down the center?

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yes the one with the mister and the dragon at the back, the dragon was cool tho when i was holding it, it climbed ontop of my head a couple times lol..

and the gators were at the table by the entrance on the left as you come in.. the other side of the doorway to rodent pro.. they had tons of spiders and stuff on the same table too.

I really wanted to go to this show. I went to the july show last year and got a normal male RTB. Was planning on getting a pastel this year but had to work. I will be at the September show.
By then I will be looking at getting another Boa, normal BP and possibly a Pastel.

Did anyone see what quality of pastels Frick 'n Frack Feeder Shack had? They might of been at the Go Lizards table. They are about 5minutes from my house and I get all my feeders from them.
Also what about Dumerils Boas? I know last year Konza from Manhattan had some that were born about two days before the show and they hadn't even had a shed yet.

I also don't feel to bad missing this show as it seems a lot of BP breeders are just now beginning to get clutches to hatch.

Yeah, they were the veranus and arachnids unlimited... I must have missed the gators. They had a lot of the scorpions and spiders as well as a few monitors, turtles and frogs. They had a lot of everything. There was a breeder from omaha that had some baby pastels that were very cheap, pairs for 125 I think. He gave me a good deal on a very clean pair of pastels.... only got to wait 3-4 years until I get to see what the offspring look like :( but it should be cool. I will get some pics up of the stuff tomorrow some time. If any one else got something it would be cool to see some pics!

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Originally Posted by the_Ryno

I really wanted to go to this show. I went to the july show last year and got a normal male RTB. Was planning on getting a pastel this year but had to work. I will be at the September show.
By then I will be looking at getting another Boa, normal BP and possibly a Pastel.

Did anyone see what quality of pastels Frick 'n Frack Feeder Shack had? They might of been at the Go Lizards table. They are about 5minutes from my house and I get all my feeders from them.
Also what about Dumerils Boas? I know last year Konza from Manhattan had some that were born about two days before the show and they hadn't even had a shed yet.

I also don't feel to bad missing this show as it seems a lot of BP breeders are just now beginning to get clutches to hatch.

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yep, there was quite a few pastels floating around and a very nice dumerils boa adult, pretty big. there was also a REALY! nice silver back boa too, he was huge! and was only 200 bucks, he is a proven breeder.

Jordy, did you see that pied on the herpers stand? he was a nice snake!

Yeah, they had a few really nice snakes on that stand! There was also the guy down the center of the room that had some awesome balls. He had a clown in one of his displays, a spider, a realy high white pied and another ball...maybe axanthic or something like that, but he had some good looking snakes. I am very happy with my purchases at the show! :banana::banana:

Good to know there were some good animals there. Now to figure out how to save money until september and get a rack.

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Good to know there were some good animals there. Now to figure out how to save money until september and get a rack.

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lol i have a rack from animal plastics on order, takes ages tho, 3-4 weeks.

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Originally Posted by wuldier

lol i have a rack from animal plastics on order, takes ages tho, 3-4 weeks.

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Yeah, my AP order took a while too... I guess they're really busy atm.

Isn't it cheaper to make your own racks? I have seen those AP one and boaphile racks and the prices are rediculous, granted they are made of plastic compared to really heavy melamine. I made a rack that was like 4x2x2 and it probably weighs 150lbs, but I would rather have a heavy rack then pay $200 more. Are they worth the money??

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Originally Posted by jordy1380

Isn't it cheaper to make your own racks? I have seen those AP one and boaphile racks and the prices are rediculous, granted they are made of plastic compared to really heavy melamine. I made a rack that was like 4x2x2 and it probably weighs 150lbs, but I would rather have a heavy rack then pay $200 more. Are they worth the money??

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This upcoming season will be my first season breeding, so I have yet to get my first rack, but I'm with you. AP is a great company, great products, I love the cages, but I plan to build my own rack, or using lids on the tubs and stacking them, as I am only going to have one or two clutches.

However, if I ever get more into breeding, with six or more clutches per year, I think I'd invest in a high quality rack such as an AP or a Boaphile.

I might try to get my dad to build me a rack. He has the tools to get them done fast, and is currently unemployed. I need something to house BPs, RTBs and potential RTB hatchlings in the next 18months.

If you have the needed tools and what not I feel you cant go wrong in trying ot build your own rack.

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Originally Posted by jordy1380

Isn't it cheaper to make your own racks? I have seen those AP one and boaphile racks and the prices are rediculous, granted they are made of plastic compared to really heavy melamine. I made a rack that was like 4x2x2 and it probably weighs 150lbs, but I would rather have a heavy rack then pay $200 more. Are they worth the money??

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it really is not THAT! much cheaper to make your own, after taking heat and everything in to consideration, and the little extra that it may cost is well worth the professionally built quality light weight easy on the eyes rack.

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it really is not THAT! much cheaper to make your own, after taking heat and everything in to consideration, and the little extra that it may cost is well worth the professionally built quality light weight easy on the eyes rack.

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Yeah, I guess that it isn't a whole lot cheaper for many people. Kind of forgot that my father is the manager for a lumber yard and I can get wood cheaper through him...so I guess that it is cheaper for me. I made my last rack that holds all size tubs for like 40 bucks for the lumber. Anyways, I finally got some pics of the snakes I got from KC.

Pastel Poss Het Hypo Male - This is the only genetic morph I have for balls, but I finally got one!:banana:
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...eptiles017.jpg
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...eptiles018.jpg
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...eptiles019.jpg
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...eptiles022.jpg
Poss Het Hypo Female - She kind of looks like a yellowbelly because of the yellow stripe down her belly. Hopefully that is just a good marker to prove genetic het!
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...eptiles014.jpg
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...eptiles016.jpg
Normal Female
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...eptiles023.jpg
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...eptiles024.jpg
Pastel BCI Male - He has sort of a wierd connected tail pattern I took pics of.
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...eptiles028.jpg
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...eptiles029.jpg
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...eptiles031.jpg
Pastel BCI Female
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...eptiles033.jpg
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...eptiles034.jpg
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...eptiles035.jpg
Albino Corn Male
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...eptiles041.jpg
Anery Corn Female
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...eptiles042.jpg

Sorry about so many pics, but I figured people love to look at pics! Let me know what you think, thanx!!

:O Wow! What a day! I'm super jealous. Wish I was allowed to bring home that many snakes after an expo!!

Just encase you guys didn't know there will be two different reptile shows in the Kansas City area in Sept.

One is Sept 13th in Overland Park, KS (Kansas City Reptile Show).

The other one is the Midwest Reptile Breeders Expo on Sept 27th presented by the Kansas City Herpetological Society. It is located in Independence, MO.

Here are the websites.

http://kcreptileshow.com/

http://www.kcherp.com/index.htm

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Originally Posted by jordy1380

Yeah, I guess that it isn't a whole lot cheaper for many people. Kind of forgot that my father is the manager for a lumber yard and I can get wood cheaper through him...so I guess that it is cheaper for me. I made my last rack that holds all size tubs for like 40 bucks for the lumber. Anyways, I finally got some pics of the snakes I got from KC.

Pastel Poss Het Hypo Male - This is the only genetic morph I have for balls, but I finally got one!:banana:
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...eptiles017.jpg
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...eptiles018.jpg
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...eptiles019.jpg
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...eptiles022.jpg
Poss Het Hypo Female - She kind of looks like a yellowbelly because of the yellow stripe down her belly. Hopefully that is just a good marker to prove genetic het!
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...eptiles014.jpg
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...eptiles016.jpg
Normal Female
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...eptiles023.jpg
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...eptiles024.jpg
Pastel BCI Male - He has sort of a wierd connected tail pattern I took pics of.
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...eptiles028.jpg
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...eptiles029.jpg
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...eptiles031.jpg
Pastel BCI Female
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...eptiles033.jpg
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...eptiles034.jpg
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...eptiles035.jpg
Albino Corn Male
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...eptiles041.jpg
Anery Corn Female
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...eptiles042.jpg

Sorry about so many pics, but I figured people love to look at pics! Let me know what you think, thanx!!

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Jeez man, you had a good day! that little boa is a spitting image of the little female i picked up today!

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Just encase you guys didn't know there will be two different reptile shows in the Kansas City area in Sept.

One is Sept 13th in Overland Park, KS (Kansas City Reptile Show).

The other one is the Midwest Reptile Breeders Expo on Sept 27th presented by the Kansas City Herpetological Society. It is located in Independence, MO.

Here are the websites.

http://kcreptileshow.com/

http://www.kcherp.com/index.htm

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thanks for this info.. i hear it kinda swaps and changes at the Overland park one, its here every couple of months and i hear that one time its all mostly lizards and then the next its snakes, ect ect.

Has anyone ever been to the Midwest Reptile Expo recently? There was a post in this thread with a link to that and there is a show in September in Independence, MO and it looks like it could be fun. Anyone ever been to it? Is it worth driving 3 hours to go to? I thought the KC Reptile show was worth the 3 hours so is it better or worse?