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  • 06-30-2009, 09:38 AM
    EdShal
    should i use a male albino or a male pastel..
    my 1st plan was to breed my female silver streak x male pastel. but would a male albino x female silver streak be more cool?

    is my genetic correct?

    will all the babies be 100% het for albino??
  • 06-30-2009, 09:41 AM
    Stewart_Reptiles
    Re: should i use a male albino or a male pastel..
    Quote:

    my 1st plan was to breed my female silver streak x male pastel. but would a male albino x female silver streak be more cool?
    Go with what you like and the project YOU are the most excited about.
    Quote:

    will all the babies be 100% het for albino??
    Yes
  • 06-30-2009, 09:55 AM
    Wh00h0069
    Re: should i use a male albino or a male pastel..
    Either would make some killer babies!!
  • 06-30-2009, 10:10 AM
    aarondm
    Re: should i use a male albino or a male pastel..
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by EdShal View Post
    my 1st plan was to breed my female silver streak x male pastel. but would a male albino x female silver streak be more cool?

    is my genetic correct?

    will all the babies be 100% het for albino??

    I'm pretty sure you would get Black Pastels and Pastels... all 100% het Albino. Now i'm not sure what a Albino Black Pastel would look like but I know that an Albino Pastel is nothing to write home about. Looks just like a regular Albino, so does a Super Pastel Albino. Personally I would breed the Silver Streak to the Pastel. Hope this helps:gj:
  • 06-30-2009, 10:42 AM
    twistedtails
    Re: should i use a male albino or a male pastel..
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by aarondm View Post
    I'm pretty sure you would get Black Pastels and Pastels... all 100% het Albino. Now i'm not sure what a Albino Black Pastel would look like but I know that an Albino Pastel is nothing to write home about. Looks just like a regular Albino, so does a Super Pastel Albino. Personally I would breed the Silver Streak to the Pastel. Hope this helps:gj:

    The albino black pastel is pretty stunning. Here is a pic that Pat Long took at the san diego show. It was produced by the Bells.

    http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y81...n/IMG_3977.jpg
  • 06-30-2009, 01:31 PM
    Viper76
    Re: should i use a male albino or a male pastel..
    So, do u already have permission on using the male albino..hehehe. Who going to get what? hehehe...
  • 07-01-2009, 09:41 AM
    J.Vandegrift
    Re: should i use a male albino or a male pastel..
    Just my opinion, but I would probably not use either of those males for a silver streak. I am not a big fan of the albino black pastels, and to use just a male pastel on that female seems like a waste to me. I would probably try to buy another male that is a pastel as well as some other codom morph.
  • 07-01-2009, 09:47 AM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: should i use a male albino or a male pastel..
    I think its six of one...half a dozen of the other..Do I think the pastel would produce some cool stuff out the chute..Yea..Do I think a Albino super Cinni or Albino Sliver streak would be even cooler for a long term project..YES
  • 07-01-2009, 02:25 PM
    tims balls
    Re: should i use a male albino or a male pastel..
    I personally wouldnt use either of those males if it were mine. The albinos arent that hot, and pastels are everywhere. I would go with something like a clown or pied if you wanted to go recessive, or a lesserbee or kingpin to throw some INSANE combos!
  • 07-02-2009, 04:04 AM
    EdShal
    Re: should i use a male albino or a male pastel..
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Viper76 View Post
    So, do u already have permission on using the male albino..hehehe. Who going to get what? hehehe...

    hahah... i'll put in a very good deal with you. :P

    thanks to everyone. For everyone info, from where i come from (Im from Brunei). Even Pastel are very hard to get, since this hobby HERE is relatively VERY VERY new.

    so a silver streak x albino = pastel, black pastel only?

    cause a silver streak x normal = pastel, super pastel, pewter & silver streak. from the other post i asked.
  • 07-03-2009, 01:19 AM
    Viper76
    Re: should i use a male albino or a male pastel..
    [QUOTE=EdShal;1091391]hahah... i'll put in a very good deal with you. :P

    So, Can i have the Silver Streak het albino, if there are one ;p
  • 07-03-2009, 01:27 AM
    Kevin_Hornby
    Re: should i use a male albino or a male pastel..
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by EdShal View Post
    cause a silver streak x normal = pastel, super pastel, pewter & silver streak. from the other post i asked.

    Actually a silver streak x normal would give you only pewters and pastels I believe.
  • 07-03-2009, 06:21 AM
    EdShal
    Re: should i use a male albino or a male pastel..
    yeah. i just download the Genetic generic wizard... and with an albino, i would get 50% Normal het Albino & 50% Pastel... well.. i taught it was going to be a good combo.. but will include the plan for future breeding.. ;p
  • 07-04-2009, 10:37 AM
    JAMills
    Re: should i use a male albino or a male pastel..
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kevin_Hornby View Post
    Actually a silver streak x normal would give you only pewters and pastels I believe.

    That is correct

    As for the pairings
    Silver Streak X Pastel = Pastels, Super Pastels, Pewters, Silver Streaks
    Silver Streak X Albino = Pastels 100% Het Albino, Pewters 100% Het Albino
  • 07-06-2009, 10:40 AM
    EdShal
    Re: should i use a male albino or a male pastel..
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JAMills View Post
    That is correct

    As for the pairings
    Silver Streak X Pastel = Pastels, Super Pastels, Pewters, Silver Streaks
    Silver Streak X Albino = Pastels 100% Het Albino, Pewters 100% Het Albino

    wow, that good to heard.. BUT

    using the genetic wizard, i got this..

    Male = Albino
    Female = Silver Streak

    Offspring predicted as:

    ---------------------------------------------------
    50.00% Normal(het. Albino)
    50.00% Pastel

    is the program having bugs?

    and is that possible to have only the normals are hets. and pastel are not??
  • 07-06-2009, 10:58 AM
    Wh00h0069
    Re: should i use a male albino or a male pastel..
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by EdShal View Post
    wow, that good to heard.. BUT

    using the genetic wizard, i got this..

    Male = Albino
    Female = Silver Streak

    Offspring predicted as:

    ---------------------------------------------------
    50.00% Normal(het. Albino)
    50.00% Pastel

    is the program having bugs?

    and is that possible to have only the normals are hets. and pastel are not??

    Yes, the program must he having issues.

    Your odds for a silver streak (super pastel black pastel) to an albino would be:
    ½ pastel het albinos
    ½ pewter (pastel black pastel) het albinos

    Your odds for a silver streak to a pastel would be:
    ¼ pastel
    ¼ pewter
    ¼ super pastel
    ¼ silver streak
  • 07-06-2009, 11:02 AM
    JAMills
    Re: should i use a male albino or a male pastel..
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by EdShal View Post
    wow, that good to heard.. BUT

    using the genetic wizard, i got this..

    Male = Albino
    Female = Silver Streak

    Offspring predicted as:

    ---------------------------------------------------
    50.00% Normal(het. Albino)
    50.00% Pastel

    is the program having bugs?

    and is that possible to have only the normals are hets. and pastel are not??

    Don't know, I don't use that program but think of it this way...
    Silver Streak is a Super Pastel Black Pastel so
    100% of the offspring will get the Pastel Gene and 50% will get the Black pastel Gene just from the Silver Streak Parent so you are guaranteed that all offspring will atleast be pastel and any that also get the black pastel gene will be a pewter. If bred to an albino all offspring will be 100% het albino so that pairing will give you only Pastel 100% Het Albino and Pewters 100% Het Albino
  • 07-06-2009, 11:18 AM
    LGL
    Re: should i use a male albino or a male pastel..
    I'd personally go with Silver Streak x Albino. That'd give you half Black Pewter Het Albinos, and half Pastel Het Albinos. When you start breeding those back and are producing homozygouys Albinos, look what you can get:

    Albino Pewter
    http://www.yellowbellyball.com/the_k...ino_pewter.jpg

    Albino Cinnamon (similar to Albino Black Pastel)
    http://www.yellowbellyball.com/the_k...mon_pastel.jpg

    Albino Pastel
    http://www.yellowbellyball.com/the_k...tel_albino.jpg
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LGL View Post
    Albino Pastels hatch with no pattern on the top of their heads. Also, as they age they "glow" and are much brighter than a regular Albino. Here are some pictures:

    Albino Pastel (Graziani Reptiles): http://www.grazianireptiles.com/gall...1200599287.jpg

    Albino Pastel next to a regular Albino (Graziani Reptiles): http://www.grazianireptiles.com/gall...1200599318.jpg

    Albino Pastel Hatchling (RDR): http://www.ralphdavisreptiles.com/ma...ino_pastel.asp

    I like Pastel Albinos. I think they are underrated. Have you seen Ralph Davis's Pastel Lavender Albinos? Those are amazing!


    PLUS, imagine what an Albino Silver Streak will look like... To my knowledge, it has not been produced yet.

    You already have the coolest animal you can produce from your Silver Streak x Pastel cross, the Silver Streak. Add another morph like Albino to the combo and start a cool project that has MANY possibilities.
  • 07-06-2009, 05:23 PM
    EdShal
    Re: should i use a male albino or a male pastel..
    thanks guys for all the infos, & picture links.. im dreaming now..

    the silver streak is at 600 plus grams, she'll be ready for breeding next year.. its still a long way.. But i guess it will be an interesting wait.

    thanks again.. ;o) all of you.
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