is this a fire.

a guy i am doing a trade with said he had these pop up in a clutch that he was not expecting he said he also got a fire fly from the clutch but he wants me to check and see if they seem to be actual fires. thanks what do yall think.
fire or normal?
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l8...iles/fires.jpg

What was the pairing that made these? They look like fires to me!

I would say fire. I don't believe they are normal.

I just had a clutch hatch out this week between a pastel female and a super pastel male and a spider male. It was a two father clutch. The super pastel may be a firefly and not a super...because it looks like I got two fires. I attached pics, you be the judge. I do know that the breeder I got my super pastel from had bred two fires together and pastels popped up in the litter. I believe the same thing just happened to Tom Crutchfield. So anyways, I have two of these fires and I would like to trade them for some rats.


that is a copy of the email i was sent. thanks.

I think that the person who sent you the e-mail is probably correct for thinking his super pastel is a firefly. Unless something else is going on (new morph?) I would definitely call those fires! They are not normal for sure!

The creammy colors scream FIREBALL!!!!!!!! :banana:

they look normal, not bright enough to say fire. my two pennies, take with salt grains please.

fires are pastel-ish, imo. very bright, very light, extreme contrasts, blushing from nil to extreme. as those are babies, i have to say WAY too brown to be fires.

I say send a pic to Ralph Davis or Bob Clark. They are very good guys and will probably be glad to take a look for you.

Fires-either that, or something new!

They both have the spot on the head ad do fires. They look very much like fires, but fires are hard to tell when young. They develope their look as they grow.

Let em shed out and post new pics ;)

heck for some rat I do the trade ( unless talknig about 40+ rats) lol. I wish I got offers like that when I am over stocked on rodents. :O I just offed my entire Rat collection since I only have one largerat eater and slim does not get fed one rat at a time since she does not like her cage much these days.

Id say they are definently fires!:gj: They look exactly like the fires we own.

i would assume fires from what ive seen. but what were the parents?

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Originally Posted by dmaricle

I just had a clutch hatch out this week between a pastel female and a super pastel male and a spider male. It was a two father clutch. The super pastel may be a firefly and not a super...because it looks like I got two fires. I attached pics, you be the judge. I do know that the breeder I got my super pastel from had bred two fires together and pastels popped up in the litter. I believe the same thing just happened to Tom Crutchfield. So anyways, I have two of these fires and I would like to trade them for some rats.


that is a copy of the email i was sent. thanks.

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spontaneous mutations in the incubator seems to be going around a lot as of late

I would say fires, the head blushing and spot leans me that way:)

They are really neat that's for sure, definitely not normals!

this is the female after shed and a meal.
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l8...eaftershed.jpg

do yall still think she is a fire?

another of the lil girl.
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l8.../fireshed1.jpg

i think she looks cool but i dont know to much about fires do yall still think fire?

looks like it to me

Yes, I think fire. I think I'd do the trade, unless you already have fires.
The girl shows the high contrast in the after shed pics/darker darks and lighter lights.

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i think she looks cool but i dont know to much about fires do yall still think fire?

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I honestly don't think so, but that's just a guess on my part. I've only got one sulfur and haven't seen many other fires in person and they can be a very subtle morph, but it just doesn't look quite right to me. I'm not really sure why, call it herpers intuition.

On the other hand, depending on how many rats the guy want's for them, it might be worth the gamble.

For what it's worth, this post and 5 bucks will get you a cup of coffee at just about any starbucks. ;)

Yeah they look like it give them a couple of sheds & they will lighten up.Breed them together & get a Black eyed luce & they are proven fires & can be sold as a proven line.

Fires fo sho. xD

Same head spot, head pattern, and coloring. Textbook, and looks identicle to the two Sulfurs I just hatched out.

Dave

Fire!!! :)

thanks everyone we are still waiting on the last one to shed i think we are going to get them.

these are pics of them after their first shed and meal so he wants to get a couple more meals in them and then they are mine. what yall think now.
what does an adult fire look like i hear they get better with age is this true?
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l8...firesshed1.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l8.../firesshed.jpg

I will trade him some rats if you dont want to :banana:

Taking a page from way back MTV lore.....as Bevis and Butthead would say...........Fire...Fire.......Fire.........fire!

lol well it turned out rats cost an arm and a leg to ship. so i just bought them we cant wait to get them should get them some time next week.

i say fire...