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  • 06-20-2009, 08:31 PM
    jeffh231979
    question???
    ok I just got my first set of ASF's today 1.3, the guy i got them from said atleast 2 are prego, and that i need to pull the male soon as he will eat the babies cause they are not his.. Is there any truth to this??
  • 06-20-2009, 09:10 PM
    Kevin_Hornby
    Re: question???
    none whatsoever. In fact the females may not accept the male back after they are seperated. Leave em together and let them do there thing. The female will actually get preg again a few hours after giving birth. Enjoy the ASF's I love em.
  • 06-20-2009, 10:59 PM
    llovelace
    Re: question???
    Unfortunately, yes if he did not father the pups they could possibly get eaten. When I picked up my 2.5, a couple of the females were already pregnant.

    The place where I purchased them had the males & females all housed together; I was fortunate, all my first litter pups survived.
  • 06-20-2009, 11:20 PM
    Mike Cavanaugh
    Re: question???
    Personally because you have no idea of their age, I would wait until the girls are just about to pop, then pull the male and feed him off. Then keep the best looking babies for your 1st real breeding group.

    When first starting a colony out, I believe it is best to start with a young group so you know what you are working with.

    The breeder had to know what he was doing. By what he told you it sounds like he knows the male probably isn't the father of the pregnant moms... and that could end in disaster.
  • 06-21-2009, 09:50 AM
    jeffh231979
    Re: question???
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mike Cavanaugh View Post
    Personally because you have no idea of their age, I would wait until the girls are just about to pop, then pull the male and feed him off. Then keep the best looking babies for your 1st real breeding group.

    When first starting a colony out, I believe it is best to start with a young group so you know what you are working with.

    The breeder had to know what he was doing. By what he told you it sounds like he knows the male probably isn't the father of the pregnant moms... and that could end in disaster.

    Mike thank you so much I was hoping you would chime in on this one!!! I will do this now should I feed off the females as well after about a month when the babies are about to be weaned?
  • 06-21-2009, 11:21 AM
    Shawn
    Re: question???
    if your just going raise them as feeders I would just leave one of the male offspring with them so he will breed with them. it would seem to be a waste to kill off the females, unless you dont mind starting over again. I would also do as Mike suggested and keep the best from the litters for the next breeding set
  • 06-21-2009, 01:23 PM
    jeffh231979
    Re: question???
    how do you determine which are the best? or is it just what you want?
  • 06-21-2009, 03:41 PM
    Shawn
    Re: question???
    to me it is just the patterns I want to keep and, I always keep the larger of the offspring for they are the strongest.
  • 06-21-2009, 04:48 PM
    jeffh231979
    Re: question???
    Thanks for the input I want ASF's for my collection but any hatchlings will get rats as not everyone will have the ability to get soft furs
  • 06-21-2009, 05:36 PM
    Mike Cavanaugh
    Re: question???
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jeffh231979 View Post
    Mike thank you so much I was hoping you would chime in on this one!!! I will do this now should I feed off the females as well after about a month when the babies are about to be weaned?

    If it were me, I would pull the male and feed him off. then I would keep the kids in with the parents for a LONG time. They will consider to nurse off the mom even when they are eating... this will get them up to size even faster.

    you know... the kids like milk with their cookies!
  • 06-21-2009, 09:51 PM
    matt71915
    Re: question???
    i just figured that out (what mike last suggested)
    i weaned a litter off a couple weeks ago and i have a male i kept in with the female to become the new breeder male for the group. He is just about twice the size of the others that were in his litter
  • 06-21-2009, 11:01 PM
    suzuki4life
    Re: question???
    I guess if you are following Mike's directions...you should separate the male and each of the 2 females pre birth so you can ensure the bloodlines of the mothers so hopefully your future breeders can be hopefully from 2 different bloodlines.
  • 06-22-2009, 12:14 PM
    Mike Cavanaugh
    Re: question???
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by suzuki4life View Post
    I guess if you are following Mike's directions...you should separate the male and each of the 2 females pre birth so you can ensure the bloodlines of the mothers so hopefully your future breeders can be hopefully from 2 different bloodlines.

    You could do this but in my opinion it is not necessary. We all know that these thing can be inbred man times over before it starts to have a negative effect. That said, If both moms to have babies, I would take a male from one of the litters, and the females from the other.
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