reabsorbed follicles

ok, so I had a female pastel that was possibly gravid and well I palpated her
about a month or so ago and I fealt 5-6 . And well she was continuing to
lock up with my male pastel and then one day she just started refusing him.

And then she started to grow, then started wrapping around her bowl and
soaking alot. And about one week ago she looks as if she had lost all the
weight she gained. But about 3-4 days ago she started to go into shed
(hasnt shed yet, probably will in about 1-2 days)

So I assumed that she was going into pre lay shed but she is back to normal size almost so... Was her body one schedule to be gravid and she started her pre lay shed even thoe she may have reabsorbed her follicles?
LOCK
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...pastellock.jpg
BUILD
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...astelbuild.jpg
WRAP
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...e6/gravid1.jpg
NOW
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1.../Fpastel07.jpg

sorry, towards the end of my thread I said pre lay shed. I meant pre ovulation shed. THANKS!!!!!!

I wouldn't count her out just yet...

It is really hard to feel eggs between OV and POS. She may also have slugs in her, those are VERY hard to feel until just a week or two before laying.

I think those are more likely explanations. I've never heard of a female reabsorbing after building to the point shown in pic two.

Justin

I agree dont count her out yet. I felt the samething my first clutch. After ovulation you can not feel the follicles anymore. Once they ovulate and the follicles move into the body cavity where they will remain till laid, the animal appears smaller at first. It is the moving of the follicles that cause the swelling durring ovulation. Give it a few weeks and check her then. If she just ovulated then you can expect a pre lay shed in a few weeks and that will clarify that she is gravid. If her last shed was a prelay shed then you will notice her getting larger as the weeks go by.

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Originally Posted by MKHerps

I agree dont count her out yet. I felt the samething my first clutch. After ovulation you can not feel the follicles anymore. Once they ovulate and the follicles move into the body cavity where they will remain till laid, the animal appears smaller at first. It is the moving of the follicles that cause the swelling durring ovulation. Give it a few weeks and check her then. If she just ovulated then you can expect a pre lay shed in a few weeks and that will clarify that she is gravid. If her last shed was a prelay shed then you will notice her getting larger as the weeks go by.

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She hasnt ovulated yet. She just went into what I assume to be pre ovulation shed.

Oh and when I went to clean her tub of the shed and scrub everything down, I saw that there was blood on the papertowels. Nothing crazy, but enough to worry a lil'. I looked at the shed and it looks as the the blood came from her vent. Is there something wrong with her? Please help, THANK YOU!

Anyone?????

I've always heard that a lot of bp's will leave a little blood at the vent when they shed. As far as I know, it's pretty common.

I think pic two is actually her at some point of ovulation. If I read it right that was about 10 days ago? She is now going into shed or recently shed. That would put about two weeks between your build pic and shed which is right on target for being gravid. If that is all correct mark your calender for her to lay 30 days from her shed.

After ovulation they will go back down to size and like Justin said it is very hard to feel anything at that time. You should notice her getting bigger again over a wide area in a couple of weeks.

If I misread your post and am wrong, break it down a little better for us, but I would say gravid.

Also your now pic it looks like her spine is pronounced somewhat and that happens to gravid females.

You know, I had a similar thing happen this year. One of my girls was doing everything text book, until the glow. She glowed VERY brightly and was doing all of the signs as well, but I never saw ovulation come. Then she stopped glowing and the building seemed to be gone. She looked larger than she normally does, but nothing like she was full of eggs.

Anyways, I waited it out, and what do you know, she laid 6 eggs for me this week! I thought that if she did lay it would be all eggs, or that like you she may have absorbed.

Anyways, I agree, don't give up hope yet. They can trick you sometimes.

When Follicles are small... theyre dense, and easy to feel. After ovulation ( When the eggs ACTUALLY get fertilized) They turn into eggs and are really hard to feel until the last few weeks before laying, but by then, you can practically see them too... LOL. ( i had a post on the site about this SAME subject/thought too, and both of my girls that i THOUGHT "Reabsorbed" didnt, and went to both lay perfectly healthy clutches ( of exactly as many follicles as i felt, before i couldnt feel them!) My last girl should go, and recently shed a few weeks ago, ive been on egg watch with her!!! Should be five eggs from her :D

Watch her body, and behaviors ( Laying coiled, and making a circular clear spot near the heat in the substrate) and if you want, pick her up and look at her lower half, if you see a little bit of a bulge ( and shes refusing food lately) you probably have a gravid girl that just isnt showing much yet. Youll start to see subtle changes in how her body looks, and how she behaves. :)

ok thank you all, You all helped very much. I'll make sure to let you all know what happens with her. Thanks again!