Need help... Normal or morph?

This ball python is up for adoption and i'm thinking of getting it and i can't tell whether or not it is a normal or something else. So please let me know what you think.

http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/w...897018-1-x.jpg

I'd say normal and a nice one.

That's a cool normal, kinda spidery :weirdface

A very, very nice Normal at that :gj::gj::gj:

Very nice normal, looks like it has some clean colors to it.

Nice reduced pattern normal. :D

just about to say ruduced, nice normal though

Yeap nice normal with clean reduced pattern
How old/big it is male or female an how big is adoption fee?

they say it's about a 1 1/2 years old and 17". They're not sure of the sex. They think it's a male but they haven't had it probed. The adoption fee is $60. If anyone has any clue as to what the sex might possibly be let me know. They didn't have any pics of the spurs or anything.

I would take that one in a second

Nice reduced pattern... good looking snake

If your not sure I am send me the link

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awesome normal

You can't tell their sex from looking at them. All ball pythons have spurs.

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Originally Posted by Kaorte

You can't tell their sex from looking at them. All ball pythons have spurs.

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First of all I know you can't be anywhere near 100% sure of the sex by looking at them, but it is possible to take a guess. Second, I know all ball pythons have spurs. A Male's spurs tend to be more prominent than a female's though.

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Originally Posted by Fallout32

First of all I know you can't be anywhere near 100% sure of the sex by looking at them, but it is possible to take a guess. Second, I know all ball pythons have spurs. A Male's spurs tend to be more prominent than a female's though.

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Well yeah you can take a guess, but it is still 50/50. I am not convinced that you can even come close to determining the sex of a BP by looking at it (or its spurs for that matter).

just a normal with a very clean reduced pattern

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Originally Posted by Fallout32

First of all I know you can't be anywhere near 100% sure of the sex by looking at them, but it is possible to take a guess. Second, I know all ball pythons have spurs. A Male's spurs tend to be more prominent than a female's though.

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You cannot sex a BP by looking at it, and males do not always have spurs more prominent than females.

Again there are only two ways to accurately sex a BP and it is probing or popping everything else is a guess and it that case it's a 50/50 to be right or wrong.

I've noticed alot of people do think you can sex a BP from looking at it's tail. This one guy we ran into at Petco had a few BPs and said you can sex them from just looking at their tail. I think it's a common misunderstanding.

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Originally Posted by Elise.m

I've noticed alot of people do think you can sex a BP from looking at it's tail. This one guy we ran into at Petco had a few BPs and said you can sex them from just looking at their tail. I think it's a common misunderstanding.

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Popping or probing is the only way to be 100% sure on the sex..but on younger animals you can see a difference in the area just after the vent in males and females.. It's not perfect but even on hatchlings I can tell 95% of the time which it is.

It is probably the lighting, but it does look like a darkened axanthic a bit.

Freaking GORGEOUS!