What type of pastel are these two?
I got these two at the same time, and was told they had one parent in common, though I forgot to ask if the parent in common was the normal or the pastel.
Anyway, I really don't know what type they are, I need some experts to weigh in =)
https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...comparison.jpg
The top one is the female. She is about 175g and much darker. The male is the bottom one and is really bright. He is about 475g.
thanks
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i dont think you can tell the "line" of a animal by pics lol
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FIEND_FO_LYFE
i dont think you can tell the "line" of a animal by pics lol
You actually can tell the lineage of the pastel by an image. It looks like the male is a lemon pastel line from NERD but the female could be a Graziani Pastel or something else.
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Pastels are so mixed nowadays that unless it came from reputable breeders with known lineage, it's impossible to say for sure.
As long as you enjoy them, does it matter?
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guambomb832
You actually can tell the lineage of the pastel by an image. It looks like the male is a lemon pastel line from NERD but the female could be a Graziani Pastel or something else.
Its impossible to tell lineage from a picture unless you are the breeder who paired the snakes. That is why we always give people the advice to shop the individual animal and not the line. Pastels were one of the first morphs in the market and I'm sure lineage has gotten cloudy along the way. Only way to be 100% positive of your lineage is to buy direct from NERD, Graziani, Bell, etc.
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Shadera
Pastels are so mixed nowadays that unless it came from reputable breeders with known lineage, it's impossible to say for sure.
As long as you enjoy them, does it matter?
Oh, I enjoy them, but people ask me and I'd like to have an answer. I've heard that lemons brighten up as they age, which could explain why the baby is so much "duller." These were both purchased at a Miami reptile expo by the way, I just found the dude's card and sent him an email maybe he will remember.
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Depending on the female that a male pastel breeds, the pastels that come out of it could look radically different.
It happens.
That is why you breed for quality.
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guambomb832
You actually can tell the lineage of the pastel by an image. It looks like the male is a lemon pastel line from NERD but the female could be a Graziani Pastel or something else.
And for the record, no, you can't...
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im not a expert on pastels, but i figured you couldn't. it would be like "spot the HET out of the normals" lol
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They're pretty pastels. lol. :)
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LadyOhh
Depending on the female that a male pastel breeds, the pastels that come out of it could look radically different.
It happens.
That is why you breed for quality.
And for the record, no, you can't...
Yeah I didn't think ya could but it was worth a shot.
And yeah I have two females with really nice blushing that I am going to breed hm to. Then the season after that it's super pastels whhooohoo!
An aside: money-wise would it be better to breed a male pastel to a normal or a yellow (they're also called butterscotch right?) ghost to get all100% ghost hets? Or are 50-50 normals and pastels better?
And I know I am not in this for the money but if I have an extra female to breed I'd like to produce the most sellable babies, and everyone and their mother breeds pastel.
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euphuistical
An aside: money-wise would it be better to breed a male pastel to a normal or a yellow (they're also called butterscotch right?) ghost to get all100% ghost hets? Or are 50-50 normals and pastels better?
It would be easier to sell the Pastels.
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FIEND_FO_LYFE
im not a expert on pastels, but i figured you couldn't. it would be like "spot the HET out of the normals" lol
lol that would be a fun game to play
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Haha euphistical, i was emailing you about the female all this time and i never knew it.
clwskim
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greenex
lol that would be a fun game to play
you say that now...
lol
go pastel to norms.
Hets are soooo hard to sell
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A pastel IS a pastel.
There's my 2 cents:gj:
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breed the pastels to a hypo....you will get pastel 100% het to hypo and they will be worth more money or u could use therm to make pastel hypos commonly refered to a POGs
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guambomb832
You actually can tell the lineage of the pastel by an image. It looks like the male is a lemon pastel line from NERD but the female could be a Graziani Pastel or something else.
Mot sure what lemon you have seen but thats nowhere close. ANd that female is just a slightly browned out pastel. Nothing too spectacular. Still nice though. I am sure if the two were bred together they would still make some very nice supers. Hope the op takes this in the spirit it was intended it sounds like im bagging on is little ones which is in no means what I am trying to do.
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I found out the lineage of my two pastels. The female was from a bumblee bee x normal (the bee was from Amir).
The male was from a super pastel x a blonde pastel.
And I will post new pics of the female. She brightened up a crazy amount over her last two sheds. And has some really nice blushing showing now. Really glad I decided not to sell. Those two may make some amazing supers.
I am just shocked at how much her color improved.
