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  • 06-09-2009, 12:36 AM
    lpsomtus
    pls advise me about this morph ....
    I'm a new breeder from Thailand.This is the first clutch of this year.Mother is Butter snd father is Bumblebee.

    I've got 4 eggs. One of them has just been hatched yesterday.

    I am quite new ball phyton breeder, so I am not sure about this morph. Is there any advise about this morph?http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/j...IMG_4887lp.jpg
  • 06-09-2009, 12:46 AM
    pavlovk1025
    Re: pls advise me about this morph ....
    My best advice is that you ship it out to me as soon as possible. Ill cover shipping and take that hideous morph off of you. You wouldnt want that to get in the wrong hands, lemme tell you.

    *Edit*

    I keeding. AWESOME!!! Advice? Keep it breed it combo it live it love it.
  • 06-09-2009, 12:50 AM
    LGL
    Re: pls advise me about this morph ....
    Welcome to BP.net!

    It looks like you hit the odds and got a Spider Pastel Butter! Congrats! There is a debate about whether Butter and Lesser are the same gene, but I know that Spider Pastel Lesser is called a Queen Bee. I'm not sure if there is a name for the Spider Pastel Butter.

    Personally, I'd keep it and breed it when it gets up to size. That's an awesome animal to have in your collection!
  • 06-09-2009, 12:50 AM
    Beardedragon
    Re: pls advise me about this morph ....
    You may very well have a butter bee on your hands.
  • 06-09-2009, 01:44 AM
    hawaiianice99
    Re: pls advise me about this morph ....
    *crossing fingers* butter bee:snake:
  • 06-09-2009, 01:52 AM
    BPMIKE
    Re: pls advise me about this morph ....
    Welcome and WOW!Congrats!
    Mike.
  • 06-09-2009, 02:35 AM
    Bill Buchman
    Re: pls advise me about this morph ....
    Butter Bee for sure -- NICE!!! :salute:
  • 06-09-2009, 05:04 AM
    Serpents_Den
    Re: pls advise me about this morph ....
    Nice Butter Bee congrats!
  • 06-09-2009, 05:30 AM
    paulaura
    Re: pls advise me about this morph ....
    Congrats on hitting the odds!!:cool:
  • 06-09-2009, 07:21 AM
    RebelYell83
    Re: pls advise me about this morph ....
    isnt the butter bee just a butter x spider,,and this would still be classified as a queen?,,could be wrong,,prolly am
  • 06-09-2009, 08:49 AM
    Meltdown Morphs
    Re: pls advise me about this morph ....
    I thought the butter bee was just Butter x Spider as well..
    Since ..Pastel x Spider x Lesser = Queen bee
    ...them maybe...
    Pastel x Spider x Butter = King Bee?

    Just a lame guess :rolleyes: since the Lesser and Butter are supposedly the same or similar at least. but King bee might get people confused with Kingpin :P
  • 06-09-2009, 09:00 AM
    Jason Bowden
    Re: pls advise me about this morph ....
    Looks awesome!!! I think it is a butter bee(butter and spider).
  • 06-09-2009, 09:04 AM
    FatBoy
    Re: pls advise me about this morph ....
    Not to be mistaken for a peanut butter bee!!! :D congrats!!
  • 06-09-2009, 09:46 AM
    RebelYell83
    Re: pls advise me about this morph ....
    WTF is a peanut butter bee?,lol
  • 06-09-2009, 10:28 AM
    Beardedragon
    Re: pls advise me about this morph ....
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RebelYell83 View Post
    isnt the butter bee just a butter x spider,,and this would still be classified as a queen?,,could be wrong,,prolly am

    I know a queen bee is the lesser form, so I didnt want to call it that. Ill just go by Butter Bee, because its a Butter and a bumble bee together.

    Names get so confusing dont they...:rolleye2:
  • 06-09-2009, 10:29 AM
    RebelYell83
    Re: pls advise me about this morph ....
    i was told by a local guy,any snake that makes the white snake,makes a queen,,so i stick by that,,less confusing for me
  • 06-09-2009, 10:43 AM
    Wh00h0069
    Re: pls advise me about this morph ....
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RebelYell83 View Post
    i was told by a local guy,any snake that makes the white snake,makes a queen,,so i stick by that,,less confusing for me

    I don't agree with that. A Russo het lucy makes BEL, but a Russo het lucy pastel spider would look nothing like a queen bee. I think they they should all be called something different. I suggest calling a butter bumblebee a butter bumblebee until it is properly named.
  • 06-09-2009, 10:44 AM
    siegelreptiles
    Re: pls advise me about this morph ....
    Nice work---nice to see some breeding going on in thailand. One of my very good friends lives on soi 11. Do you shop for herps at chatuchak market? I visited there and saw a good amount of morph balls available.

    Ben
  • 06-09-2009, 10:47 AM
    FIREball
    Re: pls advise me about this morph ....
    Well a lesser bee is a lesser spider, so butter bee is butter spider.

    There was already a big debate last year about the butter/lesser influence on the lemonblast aka emperor pin.
  • 06-09-2009, 11:23 AM
    SlitherinSisters
    Re: pls advise me about this morph ....
    Congrats!!! Update us when it's out of the egg!!!
  • 06-09-2009, 12:13 PM
    lpsomtus
    Re: pls advise me about this morph ....
    Great welcome ! Thank u for every opinions.

    Butter X Spider = Butterbee

    Butter X Bumblebee = Butter Bumblebee

    What is the difference between Butterbee and Butter Bumblebee? head tone color , body pattern or etc.

    I'll post pictures again when it comes out of the egg.

    Thank u so much
  • 06-09-2009, 12:31 PM
    jkobylka
    Re: pls advise me about this morph ....
    definately a butter bee. Awesome!

    Justin
  • 06-09-2009, 12:38 PM
    tonkatoyman
    Re: pls advise me about this morph ....
    According to the NERD website a Butterbee is a spider x Butter. If anyone should know Nerd should. After all they wrote the book on bees and spider combos
  • 06-09-2009, 12:38 PM
    mpenny
    Re: pls advise me about this morph ....
    Congrats!! Sure is sweet and creamy what ever kind of butter you want to call it.
    Marty :rolleye2:
  • 06-09-2009, 12:48 PM
    Wh00h0069
    Re: pls advise me about this morph ....
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by lpsomtus View Post
    Great welcome ! Thank u for every opinions.

    Butter X Spider = Butterbee

    Butter X Bumblebee = Butter Bumblebee

    What is the difference between Butterbee and Butter Bumblebee? head tone color , body pattern or etc.

    I'll post pictures again when it comes out of the egg.

    Thank u so much

    Go to the link below. There is a picture of a queen bee (lesser pastel spider) next to a bumblebee (pastel spider). Butters and lessers look very similar, so the queen bee should look similar to the butter bumblebee.
    http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...ight=queen+bee

    Hope this helps.
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