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cornsnake BABIES!!!!!

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  • 06-08-2009, 10:55 PM
    Mike Cavanaugh
    cornsnake BABIES!!!!!
    as you all have demanded, here are the 13 healthy babies! lots of different colors and patterns. I don't know much about corns, and have no idea what the genetics on the parents are.... maybe some of you can guess at it after looking at the babies????

    http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...a/DSC01487.jpg

    http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...a/DSC01486.jpg

    anyone want to guess at what the going petshop rate is for each morph?
  • 06-08-2009, 11:09 PM
    OFRD_GRL
    Re: cornsnake BABIES!!!!!
    awesome little babies :D
  • 06-08-2009, 11:24 PM
    ItsMichael805
    Re: cornsnake BABIES!!!!!
    how much is it? at the petshops??
  • 06-08-2009, 11:42 PM
    Mike Cavanaugh
    Re: cornsnake BABIES!!!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Michael View Post
    how much is it? at the petshops??

    oh, I don't know the answer to this! I have no idea how to price them... I am guessing they are prob 20 to 30 bucks each? Hopefully the more experienced corn guru's will chime in!
  • 06-08-2009, 11:47 PM
    Buttons
    Re: cornsnake BABIES!!!!!
    Mine hatched this weekend as well! :banana: I'll have pics up soon!


    A couple of those look like Amels and Snows but I'm not too certain on all the corn snake morphs.
  • 06-08-2009, 11:51 PM
    Argentra
    Re: cornsnake BABIES!!!!!
    The pink ones LOOK like snows, the black and grey look like Anerys, the orange and white ones like Amels.

    But I am NO expert. :D I'm waiting for Matt to see this thread.
  • 06-09-2009, 12:41 AM
    the_Ryno
    Re: cornsnake BABIES!!!!!
    I like the dark red looking one in the middle with the orange spots down its back. Hope to get one of them in july at a show.

    The pink ones also catch my eye.
  • 06-09-2009, 01:06 AM
    pavlovk1025
    Re: cornsnake BABIES!!!!!
    I strongly dislike corn snakes but those are awesome...Id own one of them.
  • 06-09-2009, 01:19 AM
    kc261
    Re: cornsnake BABIES!!!!!
    I believe I see:

    1 normal (reddish brownish with orangish spots)
    5 anery (black/grey)
    2 amel (reddish orangish)
    2 snow (white/pink) snows are a combo of anery & amel
    3 ghost (pale brownish) ghosts are a combo of anery & hypo

    I am NOT at all sure! Especially about the ones I think may be ghosts.

    Are the parents morphs? Or just normals with hets? Knowing what they are would help us identify the babies for sure.

    All 3 of the genes involved in these morphs (if I'm right) are pretty common, so the babies sell for pretty low prices. Roughly $20 at shows, or a little more at pet stores.

    I like the little one with the big attitude (near the water bowl). Gotta love fiesty babies!
  • 06-09-2009, 06:48 AM
    cornmorphs
    Re: cornsnake BABIES!!!!!
    yeah you sure do have a ghost in there..
    so normals,. amels, anerys, snows.. and as a ghost is made from hypo and anery then you will probably have a hypo in there too..
    problem is, you could also have a hypo snow (coral) or a hybino (amel hypo) and you will probably not know
  • 06-09-2009, 01:34 PM
    Blue Apple Herps
    Re: cornsnake BABIES!!!!!
    Nice clutch!! Others have hit the nail on the head: you have normals, anerys, amels, snows, ghosts, and at least one hypo. All look like they have normal patterns. And as was pointed out, amel masks hypo, so the snows or amel could also be homo hypo, only breeding trails can test that. I see:

    5 anerys
    3 ghosts
    2 snows
    1 normal
    1 hypo
    1 amel

    Going rate for a pet shop is going to be retail, which is probably around $30-50, but that's retail. Selling on the forums or at a show, maybe $10-20. Great clutch and congrats!!
  • 06-09-2009, 01:35 PM
    Blue Apple Herps
    Re: cornsnake BABIES!!!!!
    Bizarre double post.
  • 06-09-2009, 02:42 PM
    b8g8
    Re: cornsnake BABIES!!!!!
    Maybe try asking on cornsnakes.com ? They're adorable. :3
  • 06-09-2009, 05:34 PM
    cornmorphs
    Re: cornsnake BABIES!!!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by b8g8 View Post
    Maybe try asking on cornsnakes.com ? They're adorable. :3

    nah theres no need. they are deffo as described. although i use that site and its obviously great.
  • 06-09-2009, 10:33 PM
    kc261
    Re: cornsnake BABIES!!!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by blueapplepaste View Post
    I see:

    5 anerys
    3 ghosts
    2 snows
    1 normal
    1 hypo
    1 amel

    You have the same list as I did, except one of the ones I thought was amel you think is hypo. You have way more experience with this than me, so I'm not doubting you, but I'd like more information. I thought hypo usually looked closer to normal than it does to amel?

    I know they can be highly variable, I'm just trying to get more of a feel for it.
  • 06-10-2009, 12:19 PM
    Blue Apple Herps
    Re: cornsnake BABIES!!!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kc261 View Post
    You have the same list as I did, except one of the ones I thought was amel you think is hypo. You have way more experience with this than me, so I'm not doubting you, but I'd like more information. I thought hypo usually looked closer to normal than it does to amel?

    I know they can be highly variable, I'm just trying to get more of a feel for it.

    I've found that when hypos are hatchlings is when the difference is the greatest between them and normals. So if you look closely at one of the ones you think is amel, you'll see its a little darker than the other amel and its eyes aren't that orange/pink color, but darker. The saddles are also surrounded by a really washed out grey color and aren't totally white like the amel. Have a closer look, and hopefully you can see the differences.

    A closer up shot comparing the two would help, but its still pretty clear from the pics provided.
  • 06-10-2009, 01:04 PM
    redmantodd
    Re: cornsnake BABIES!!!!!
    Hey Mike,

    What do the parents look like? Just curious. Thanks.

    Best,
    Red
  • 06-10-2009, 01:10 PM
    redmantodd
    Re: cornsnake BABIES!!!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mike Cavanaugh View Post
    oh, I don't know the answer to this! I have no idea how to price them... I am guessing they are prob 20 to 30 bucks each? Hopefully the more experienced corn guru's will chime in!

    Believe it or not, the local pet store here sells corn babies that they call "fancy corns." Usually they are anery, snow, amels, stuff like that. They get $89.99 for them. Of course I haven't bought any from them, but that is what they ask for them. :O I know.

    Best,
    Red
  • 06-11-2009, 03:39 PM
    kc261
    Re: cornsnake BABIES!!!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by blueapplepaste View Post
    I've found that when hypos are hatchlings is when the difference is the greatest between them and normals. So if you look closely at one of the ones you think is amel, you'll see its a little darker than the other amel and its eyes aren't that orange/pink color, but darker. The saddles are also surrounded by a really washed out grey color and aren't totally white like the amel. Have a closer look, and hopefully you can see the differences.

    Thanks, that helped a lot!
  • 06-11-2009, 03:50 PM
    kc261
    Re: cornsnake BABIES!!!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by redmantodd View Post
    Believe it or not, the local pet store here sells corn babies that they call "fancy corns." Usually they are anery, snow, amels, stuff like that. They get $89.99 for them. Of course I haven't bought any from them, but that is what they ask for them. :O I know.

    Best,
    Red

    Yeah, I've seen similar prices in one store. Oddly, I think one of the highest priced corns that store had was an amel. Yup. Plain old amelanistic. You know, the morph that's been around since the '60's or so?

    I actually can see the uneducated public being willing to pay more for an amel. They are very colorful and attractive. And since most pet stores care much more about making money than anything else...
  • 06-11-2009, 06:14 PM
    Mike Cavanaugh
    Re: cornsnake BABIES!!!!!
    i will try to take pictures of the parents tonight... I can also take a pic of the two babies you are talking about too... however i have NO idea what ones you are talking about! lol!
  • 06-11-2009, 10:05 PM
    kc261
    Re: cornsnake BABIES!!!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mike Cavanaugh View Post
    i will try to take pictures of the parents tonight... I can also take a pic of the two babies you are talking about too... however i have NO idea what ones you are talking about! lol!

    LOL! I think you need to learn just a teeny bit about corn morphs! :D

    The two I originally thought were both amel, but are apparently one amel & one hypo are the two in the bottom left of the first picture, sort of reddish & orangish colors.
  • 06-12-2009, 07:12 AM
    redmantodd
    Re: cornsnake BABIES!!!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kc261 View Post
    Yeah, I've seen similar prices in one store. Oddly, I think one of the highest priced corns that store had was an amel. Yup. Plain old amelanistic. You know, the morph that's been around since the '60's or so?

    I actually can see the uneducated public being willing to pay more for an amel. They are very colorful and attractive. And since most pet stores care much more about making money than anything else...

    Exactly.
  • 06-12-2009, 07:14 AM
    redmantodd
    Re: cornsnake BABIES!!!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by blueapplepaste View Post
    I've found that when hypos are hatchlings is when the difference is the greatest between them and normals. So if you look closely at one of the ones you think is amel, you'll see its a little darker than the other amel and its eyes aren't that orange/pink color, but darker. The saddles are also surrounded by a really washed out grey color and aren't totally white like the amel. Have a closer look, and hopefully you can see the differences.

    A closer up shot comparing the two would help, but its still pretty clear from the pics provided.

    I see what you are talking about. Thank you very much. Very interesting stuff.

    Best,
    Red
  • 06-12-2009, 11:42 AM
    nwheat
    Re: cornsnake BABIES!!!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by blueapplepaste View Post
    5 anerys
    3 ghosts
    2 snows
    1 normal
    1 hypo
    1 amel

    This is what I was thinking as well.

    Congrats, Mike!! I love the variety!
  • 06-12-2009, 04:13 PM
    PythonJosh
    Re: cornsnake BABIES!!!!!
    Hey really nice collection of morphs :D all look healthy good luck with them
  • 06-12-2009, 04:23 PM
    blackcrystal22
    Re: cornsnake BABIES!!!!!
    God I hope my clutch looks like that!!!
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