Interesting Snakes - Platinum Citron

Video says it's a world first. I have no idea what citron means. Cool looking tho.

YouTube - World's First Platinum Citron

God I cant stand the way they manhandle their eggs when they cut. I couldn't even finish the vid. Please tell me he didnt yank them out of the eggs like in there last vid. I drive past prehistoric pets everyday on the way to and from work and they by far have some of the worst husbandry ever. Everything in there is sick or dying and most of their larger burms and tics are donations from people whom had to give up their animals. I highly doubt they could raise an animal from baby to adult.

that's all the world needs is 20 more retics....

You think he would honestly do that if he thought he would be killing a snake that is worth that much?

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Originally Posted by sg1trogdor

God I cant stand the way they manhandle their eggs when they cut. I couldn't even finish the vid. Please tell me he didnt yank them out of the eggs like in there last vid. I drive past prehistoric pets everyday on the way to and from work and they by far have some of the worst husbandry ever. Everything in there is sick or dying and most of their larger burms and tics are donations from people whom had to give up their animals. I highly doubt they could raise an animal from baby to adult.

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I had no idea they were that bad...I used to look at pics of their store and wish I could visit, but now I won't bother to. I couldn't finish the video either, that poor thing, its first experiance in life is being ripped out of its egg...very sad.

That made me sick to my stomach, perhaps because I have a heart. Anything for a buck and to be first at something, I guess.

Thanks all. I had no idea that was bad. I've never had eggs or seen how to correctly extract them.

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Originally Posted by MasonC2K

I have no idea what citron means.

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Means Lemon in french

You know, that guy posts these same type of videos every year. And every year people complain about how rough he's handling his snakes and how they don't know how those poor things can survive and what a horrible person he must be. But the point is, his technique hasn't changed in YEARS and he's still doing it that way, so obviously it must work for him.

I know from personal experience that if I were to handle corn snake eggs that way, they'd just die. No ifs, ands or buts... my experience is if you cut a vein on colubrid eggs they just die. On the other hand, ball pythons are a lot tougher and hardier. If I accidentally cut a vein on a ball egg, it really doesn't seem to affect them that much if at all. I do NOT handle my ball eggs roughly, I just don't feel right about it, but they're my eggs and I can handle them how I want. I know others, even some big names, who have pulled the babies out of their eggs yolk and all, check the sex, then stuff them back in the eggs again and they eventually still come out fine. Again, not something I'd feel comfortable doing, but if it works for them then who am I to argue?

I'm not ever likely to hatch retics. I'm not ever likely to HAVE retics, I just don't have any interest. So I really don't feel I'm qualified to say that what he is doing is either right or wrong. Sure, it looks rough to me, but I would imagine that retics are a lot tougher then even ball pythons. But then again I don't have any experience with retic eggs so what do I know? Apparently it works for him and they're his eggs. He can do with them whatever he wants, it apparently has no lasting effect on the babies.

Well i cant really say i don't like the guy. He is a very nice dude, and i've done business with him before... But i will agree with other that he is very rough with the eggs.... I can understand cutting them open to see what you got, but why rip them out of the egg? Also, i still don't get how the heck he cuts that egg with the razor without cutting the snake, he doesn't take any precautions of pinching a little part of the egg to make sure the snake isn't there and cut it. He just goes right in and cuts! He should just wait a few more days until the snakes comes out on their own... He lacks something EXTREMELY Important in this hobby, and that is patience.
~Brandon

I totally agree. I know exactly jack squat about breeding and eggs but watching him stick that razor in there and cut it open like a UPS box made me tense each time. They didn't seem to eager to be coming outta those shells either.:(

The reason he cuts the eggs is because sometimes the egg tooth will fall off before they can puncture the shell thus the snake drowning. I would rather the snake live then drown in the egg. He is a bit rough with it though. From what I've heard from people around here is that he has alot of mite problems giving him the nickname "prehistoric pests."

Well if it works for him...
He did say at least some had pipped, so I can see cutting the eggs. If he doesn't cut any babies, then whatever, but I'd freak out cutting like that. But then, maybe he's cut so many eggs that he knows exactly how much pressure to put on it? Dunno.

Never been to the store, I've only seen their ads online, and everything seemed higher priced than the average. I'm glad he's made something new, and there's big fans of retics and the morphs of retics, so I certainly won't diss him for a clutch of morph retic eggs.

I am speaking from experience and no their animals are not all that healthy. Like I mentioned before most of the animals in the store are from outside sources and even those poor things are sickly. I just dont care for their husbandry skills. About a year or so ago I took my two leos to them because I needed room for some incoming snakes. Well long story short a few months later I went back and spoke with them and found out that they had both died. Now this seems strange when two perfectly healthy animals just up and die a few months later. Then theres my first pastel which was sold to me with scale rot. Its my fault for not noticing upon purchasing him but when I called them they knew all about it and still had no problem selling me a sick animal. I may stop in a buy some snake bags or take a look around but I Will never buy from them again. Their sister store in montclair (i think) is much better. They are alot cleaner and their animals look much healthier.

This is a little off subject but this video is of his "Insane Purple" Retic and well I'll let you judge for yourself.
YouTube - Insane Purple
Nice looking snakes but what do you think? Edited?

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Originally Posted by Jsh

This is a little off subject but this video is of his "Insane Purple" Retic and well I'll let you judge for yourself.
YouTube - Insane Purple
Nice looking snakes but what do you think? Edited?

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WOW! They are so purple that when you hold them, Your hands turn purple too!
~Brandon

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Originally Posted by DBD

WOW! They are so purple that when you hold them, Your hands turn purple too!
~Brandon

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That video is SO edited. All the snakes go from normal looking, his hands also, to insane purple, along with his hands.

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Originally Posted by DBD

WOW! They are so purple that when you hold them, Your hands turn purple too!
~Brandon

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haha right

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Originally Posted by gp_dragsandballs

The reason he cuts the eggs is because sometimes the egg tooth will fall off before they can puncture the shell thus the snake drowning. I would rather the snake live then drown in the egg. He is a bit rough with it though. From what I've heard from people around here is that he has alot of mite problems giving him the nickname "prehistoric pests."

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I bought a snake from Prehistoric Pets, and it had not mites.

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Originally Posted by DBD

WOW! They are so purple that when you hold them, Your hands turn purple too!
~Brandon

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Looks like the lighting to me.

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Originally Posted by Wh00h0069

Looks like the lighting to me.

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it is,unless they stopped and changed each and every frame while he was walking,and getting the shade on fade in exactly perfect,,which i doubt they did to show off snake babies....

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Originally Posted by Jsh

This is a little off subject but this video is of his "Insane Purple" Retic and well I'll let you judge for yourself.
YouTube - Insane Purple
Nice looking snakes but what do you think? Edited?

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No edit here. It's a light. A blacklight I think.

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Originally Posted by RebelYell83

it is,unless they stopped and changed each and every frame while he was walking,and getting the shade on fade in exactly perfect,,which i doubt they did to show off snake babies....

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It could be a purple light, but I've done frame by frame video effects, and I was able to do a flawless job making objects in a b/w scene have color. All I used was Photoshop, and it only took a few hours to add color to over 3,000 frames of video. A sloppy job like this doesn't even have to be done frame by frame, it could be done in AfterEffects in a couple of minutes.

If it is a light, it is extremely weak, because nothing in the video, other than the close ups of his hands and the snakes have a purple hue. The video also looks like the purple in the close ups has the hue altered AND the saturation bumped up.

could be,,i suck in photoshop,but i was looking at the bucket as he walked in,and the bucket changed color at the exact pace as everything else,i just dont see anybody taking a few hours to edit a video to make the snakes look more purple,either a possible black light,or just how the camera is interacting with the lighting and shadow change when he moves would be my bet

just watched it again,and if you look at his thumbs when eveyrhting turns purple,they are more instense,like a circle black light bulb above the camera,or flashlight with a filter

I couldn't finish the video solely because of how he speaks!

On the purples. Its funny how his hands are just as purple as the snakes lol. Omg its a lavander homo sapien. lol

regardless of the topics at hand I must say the retics must be one of the coolest morphs around. absolutely stunning!