how/where do you get signed paperwork for morphs?

does anyone knoe where you get signed paperwork for morphs, how do you get it?, and whats it look like? i have a couple morphs but never had any paperwork and if i decide to sell i would like to know for a fact that my customer would recieve this for reassurance

Usually done up by the breeder if not mistaken

If you didn't get any with your animals, you'd be breeding them to try and prove out the genetics. Then fill your paperwork out from there.

I've rarely received paperwork for genetics, even from the big breeders. It's a GIANT pain to try to sell the animal with no paperwork. Really, should buyers have to ask for the paperwork? Or should it automatically be sent with hets?

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Paperwork are done by the breeder from whom you buy the animals from.

Not every breeder will provide paperwork some will only provide you with an invoice mentioning the animal being purchased.

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Deborah
Not every breeder will provide paperwork some will only provide you with an invoice mentioning the animal being purchased.

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to me if they won't give you the paperwork for a het they must not really want to buy their snake. I won't but a snake thats a het without paperwork

In my mind there are things that should come with every animal you buy.

1: Feeding records.
2: Invoice
3: Genetic Papers showing Sire and Dame and off spring. This should also include the breeders ID number for all three so the buyer can tell if any of the animals they purchase later are related.

You shouldn't have to ask, you shouldn't have to beg..I will not buy from a breeder at a show that doesn't have these items on hand.

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Originally Posted by matt71915

to me if they won't give you the paperwork for a het they must not really want to buy their snake. I won't but a snake thats a het without paperwork

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I have a het clown that came with an invoice instead of paperwork and I have no problem with it simply because it came from a very reputable source.

Paperwork does not mean anything if the source is less than reputable ;)
Personally when I sell animals (except for the normals) I like to give the buyer detailed paperwork (on a CD) along with pictures (and permission to use the pictures) so the animal can be traced if being re-sold but that’s me not everyone does that.

More often than not if you buy from a show you will not get any paperwork either.

To me it's not really about the paperwork it's about who I am buying from more than anything else.

i agree that it is about the breeder too. but if you were to go and sell your het its nice to have paperwork, or invoice.... which i consider paperwork

I have two het pieds from Adam, I am not at all worried- but oh yeah, they came with records and paperwork! :)

I have a het albino that came with nothing, from a friend. I would sure hope my friend wouldn't screw me over. I doubt he did.

The rest of mine are visuals so I am not concerned.

I bought my hets without paperwork but I did get all the information regarding the breeder who produced the animal, and contacted the breeder.

I just dug through the paperwork I actually have on hand out of the dozens of animals I've purchased, and the only breeders who sent paperwork were Albey Scholl, Miss Maki, and Grant Whitmer on my lavender albino hets. Graziani, NERD, and others never sent me a thing. Which doesn't matter to me personally because obviously they are what they say they are, but again - if and when I try to sell these animals it's unneeded and unnecessary footwork to get that info from the original breeder. Which Is, I believe, what the OP was asking about.

Sorry, it's just always been a pet peeve of mine that a lot of the big guys don't send out paperwork automatically with hets. You're lucky to even get an invoice in that box. I'm going to send out laminated genetics picture IDs and detailed event records with anything produced here. It's not so much extra work.

Ironically enough, every het I have that has come with paperwork turned out to be fake, while there are no problems with the few I've received without papers.

the only hets i have bought,were from reputable local breeders,with no paperwork,but eve when we sell a normal,it comes with a feed card,with the date hatched,clutch number,mom and dad names,and a list of feedings and shed,which also lists if its a normal,50%het,or visual co dom,,as we dont have any visual reccesive yet,we havent had to list that,but we will

Also,is your visual pastel or spider or elsser for example,doesnt appear to be to a morph,and NEEDS papers saying it is,then why are you breeding it?,just my opinion,i see a LOT of "great looking pastels"that to me,i have to look really close to see they arent normals

visible morphs = no paperwork cause you can see it.( outside axanthics since it will fade out )

hets I prefer some paper work saying they are het.. This be their birthcard (With parents info ) a receipt stating this. or a writen ( printed ) paper fro mthe breeder with a picture of snake ,in writing, date of purchase,and the breeder john handcock... all of these go into a evenlope so all records are kept together. When I breed i will have a picture of the animal, picture of the parents, dates the eggs laid hatched, number of time feed( if I had problem getting started to eat) and any het info I got ( even if it copies of the orginal papers.) and 100% het with a purchase price money back ( this will be writen down in the records) and I will put it all on a cd ( thanks deb for the ideal ) a second cd will be kept ( or an iso image) under the purchaser's name on a n external had for 5 years.. after that point it moreless known to been breed if breeding was the plan.

Paper work is as good as the breeder who produced it.

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Originally Posted by RebelYell83

the only hets i have bought,were from reputable local breeders,with no paperwork,but eve when we sell a normal,it comes with a feed card,with the date hatched,clutch number,mom and dad names,and a list of feedings and shed,which also lists if its a normal,50%het,or visual co dom,,as we dont have any visual reccesive yet,we havent had to list that,but we will

Also,is your visual pastel or spider or elsser for example,doesnt appear to be to a morph,and NEEDS papers saying it is,then why are you breeding it?,just my opinion,i see a LOT of "great looking pastels"that to me,i have to look really close to see they arent normals

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my snakes are visual morphs but i wanted to know how the paperwork works pics of the mother, father, clutch , babies, eating record, weight record, shed record i wanted to know all this and whats the guarentee because i want to breed and if im selling i want everything to be hassle free i dont want to run into "that" guy saying he wants paper work and blah blah blah and im going to be clueless as to what exactly i should have put down.. now i understand what i should do when i sell an animal and its mostly for Het's
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