black pastel

I love everything that comes from pastels and spiders. So my question is, are black pastels a good morph to go with. By good I mean, are there alot of cool turnouts you can get with pairing a black pastel X xxxxx. And is there a super form of black pastels. Also what would the possible turnout be if you pair a black pastel X spider, pastel, bumblebee, killerbee etc.. Has it been done yet?

Black Pastels are awesome.

Lots of things you can do with them, and a lot of basic combos have already been done.

Google them!

They are great. The super is a kick ass animal. Beautiful.

Black pastel x normal Pastel makes gorgeous pewters IMO

This is a must have snake IMO... check out the Cinnamon too, they are very similar morphs which can do similar things.

This is my male black pastel:

http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/t...2june09039.jpg

I have a couple Cinnamons and still like the Black Pastels better. They are so damn hot. I may need to hit up Heather for one! :) She produces some killer ones!

Since there is a pic of a black pastel in this thread I figure I'll post a pic of a cinny.I favor a good ol' fashioned cinnamon
[IMG]http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...IMG_5248_2.jpg[/IMG].

Well here is a couple of pewters, the cinnamon x pastel.

Female
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...s/DSCF0422.jpg

Male
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...s/DSCF0448.jpg

Cinnamon pewters are the best IMO

Call me crazy, but I like both :)

I just paired my black pastel with y spider female. I wonder what will come out because I cant seem to find anything.....

that's interesting firehop, i have to imagine SOMEONE has produced black pastel spiders, but I don't think I've ever seen a pic of one.

to the OP, I love black pastels and cinnies(in case you haven't figured it out yet, the morphs are compatible with each other and very similar)

The super form is fantastic, a patternless dark grey-ish snake. Pewters(when crossed with pastels) are just gorgeous.

Personally I prefer the look of cinnamons, black pastels don't look quite as stunning imo as they go into adulthood as cinnies do.

I like black pastels a lot. As a base morph, I think I prefer them over cinnamons, although both are very nice.

Both make gorgeous combos. One of my favorites is the hypo version of both.
Black pastel hypo:
http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showthread.php?t=80481
Cinnamon hypo:
http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showthread.php?t=85773

Black Pastels are my top favorite morph. Their potential, imo has yet to be fully seen.
Super Black Pastel
http://vpi.com/galleries/images/315
Black Pastel Bumble Bee
http://www.constrictors.com/images/B...BlackWidow.jpg
Super Pewter (Super Pastel Super Cinny)
http://boabasement.com/superpewter.htm
Hypo Pewter
http://boabasement.com/hypopewter.htm

yeah, what does a cinny /spider look like????

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Originally Posted by firehop

I just paired my black pastel with y spider female. I wonder what will come out because I cant seem to find anything.....

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Originally Posted by mainbutter

that's interesting firehop, i have to imagine SOMEONE has produced black pastel spiders, but I don't think I've ever seen a pic of one.

to the OP, I love black pastels and cinnies(in case you haven't figured it out yet, the morphs are compatible with each other and very similar)

The super form is fantastic, a patternless dark grey-ish snake. Pewters(when crossed with pastels) are just gorgeous.

Personally I prefer the look of cinnamons, black pastels don't look quite as stunning imo as they go into adulthood as cinnies do.

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Here's a link to the Spider Cinnamon...
http://www.newenglandreptile.com/ner...ider-ball.html

Here's a Spider Black Pastel...
http://ballpythonbreeder.com/photogr...e-ball-python/

I'm waiting for a clutch of Eggs from a Spider that was bred by a Black Pastel 100% Het. Hypo.

I say BLACK PASTEL all the way. Mine are just getting nicer with every shed. I am so glad I went with the Black over the Cinny.
Just look at this guy:
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...-3-2008004.jpg
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...-3-2008005.jpg

Cinnamons are nice but the Black Pastel is just... Cinnies make things browner. Have you seen the new Graziani Cinny Clown. It's nice but I would take a regular Clown over it any day.

Black X Pastel This girl has some outrageous patterns and colors:
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...l/DSC01306.jpg
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...l/DSC01311.jpg

ECRB has some pictures and a blog about the Spider X Black Pastel