Have any of you heard of this being a problem with the sterilite 41 qt tubs?
05-29-2009, 06:04 PM
Chuck
Re: "outgassing"?
I worry about the expanded PVC or Foamed PVC same thing. It out gases at a pretty low temp still higher than what you keep any of your animals at but not much. That is the main complaint of PVC in cage manufacturing. It is so light and strong and inexpensive that is why its so common. I have never heard of out gassing problems from steralite tubs. All plastic will out gas its just at what temp it happens. Its a good question and honestly I don't really know, but it might be worth a call to steralite.
Chuck
05-29-2009, 06:17 PM
twistedtails
Re: "outgassing"?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chuck
I worry about the expanded PVC or Foamed PVC same thing. It out gases at a pretty low temp still higher than what you keep any of your animals at but not much. That is the main complaint of PVC in cage manufacturing. It is so light and strong and inexpensive that is why its so common. I have never heard of out gassing problems from steralite tubs. All plastic will out gas its just at what temp it happens. Its a good question and honestly I don't really know, but it might be worth a call to steralite.
Chuck
I'm gonna call them right now I'll post the answer in a while:gj: Can you tell I'm bored at work???
05-29-2009, 06:23 PM
twistedtails
Re: "outgassing"?
They are closed but have an email in to them.....I'll post later.
05-29-2009, 07:03 PM
SoundUnsleep
Re: "outgassing"?
PVC contains Bisphenol A (BPA) as a polymerization inhibitor. That's basically why PVC is not exactly a desired material to use, if you plan on i.e. breeding snakes.
BPA is an endocrine disruptor and an active synthetic estrogen that decreases testosterone in male snakes. Further, the offspring of parents exposed to BPA can (not all research projects had the same results, so let's stick to the word "can) cause neurological and behavioral disorders and decreases fertility.
05-29-2009, 07:38 PM
twistedtails
Re: "outgassing"?
Quote:
Originally Posted by SoundUnsleep
PVC contains Bisphenol A (BPA) as a polymerization inhibitor. That's basically why PVC is not exactly a desired material to use, if you plan on i.e. breeding snakes.
BPA is an endocrine disruptor and an active synthetic estrogen that decreases testosterone in male snakes. Further, the offspring of parents exposed to BPA can (not all research projects had the same results, so let's stick to the word "can) cause neurological and behavioral disorders and decreases fertility.
Now that is a scientific answer.:banana:
05-29-2009, 07:45 PM
BallPythonMan
Re: "outgassing"?
So SoundAsleep what would you recommend using instead? Getting ready to build my first rack and this is important.
05-29-2009, 07:46 PM
BallPythonMan
Re: "outgassing"?
Sorry misread the name SoundUnsleep
05-30-2009, 06:52 AM
SoundUnsleep
Re: "outgassing"?
Well, I'm sorry, I didn't get back earlier to answer since I was in fact sound "a"sleep ;).
I could not get away from the plastics completely, but I certainly reduced the amount of plastic that my snakes are exposed to by sticking to the good 'ole fashioned glass tanks (side ways with hinged screens and holes drilled in the backs for humidity lines, sensors, etc).
05-30-2009, 07:11 AM
nicktreb
Re: "outgassing"?
Quote:
Originally Posted by soundunsleep
pvc contains bisphenol a (bpa) as a polymerization inhibitor. That's basically why pvc is not exactly a desired material to use, if you plan on i.e. Breeding snakes.
Bpa is an endocrine disruptor and an active synthetic estrogen that decreases testosterone in male snakes. Further, the offspring of parents exposed to bpa can (not all research projects had the same results, so let's stick to the word "can) cause neurological and behavioral disorders and decreases fertility.
never heard this before.. should i move my males? lol now im scared.
:o
05-30-2009, 12:07 PM
cinderbird
Re: "outgassing"?
this is fascinating.
Are there any breeders here who have noticed any signs of this? I feel that it mirrors the formaldehyde issue or similar issue with melamine rack systems. I'd love to hear more about this and some anecdotal evidence or stories from people who have had problems like what SoundUnsleep mentioned in their reply.
I keep one of my females in a 41q sterlaite (although she's going back to the 32 when my rack arrives).