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  • 05-25-2009, 02:15 PM
    Bleepr
    Snake flipping
    What are your thoughts on it? I'm not entirely opposed to the idea, but I know people who are very opposed to it because its "inethical".

    Thoughts? Opinions?
  • 05-25-2009, 02:16 PM
    2kdime
    Re: Snake flipping
    A lot of people make a living/business out of it.

    Bad thing is, a lot of the people who do it are more interested in the money, rather than the animals.

    And the animals suffer because of it.
  • 05-25-2009, 02:21 PM
    LadyOhh
    Re: Snake flipping
    LMFAO!!

    Okay, I have yet to have my coffee...

    So I thought you were talking about turning over snakes and watching them flip back over..

    AHAHAHAHAHaHaH!!!!

    :8:

    Sorry, I'm lame.
  • 05-25-2009, 02:27 PM
    waltah!
    Re: Snake flipping
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LadyOhh View Post
    LMFAO!!

    Okay, I have yet to have my coffee...

    So I thought you were talking about turning over snakes and watching them flip back over..

    AHAHAHAHAHaHaH!!!!

    :8:

    Sorry, I'm lame.

    Morning, Heather:gj:
  • 05-25-2009, 02:35 PM
    TylerxToxic
    Re: Snake flipping
    whats snake flipping? :confused:
  • 05-25-2009, 02:37 PM
    wilomn
    Re: Snake flipping
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TylerxToxic View Post
    whats snake flipping? :confused:

    Sort of like pancake flipping but slipperyer.
  • 05-25-2009, 02:41 PM
    TylerxToxic
    Re: Snake flipping
    huh?
    I've never heard of that either. lol. =/
  • 05-25-2009, 02:43 PM
    mainbutter
    Re: Snake flipping
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TylerxToxic View Post
    whats snake flipping? :confused:

    buying snakes and selling them at a higher price for profit.
  • 05-25-2009, 02:43 PM
    Bleepr
    Re: Snake flipping
    Haha, good morning Heather =D... though I've been at work for 2 hours now :rolleyes:

    If I did decide to flip snakes, I'm sure they wouldn't suffer durring the process, they would be cared for just has I care for the two I have already. I understand peoples frustration with flippers because you're right, 2kdime, alot of time, people who flip animals know that they aren't thier animals, and thus, don't care for them.

    The reason I really inquire about it is because (if you've looked at my other threads) I can get a 08 Woma for ~125, flip him for 300-400, and use the procedes to get a 08 female spider for 200.

    Is just an option for me, and I honestly not sure that I'll do it. I always want other peoples opinions on it, and people here seem to have strong opinions on everything :D
  • 05-25-2009, 02:44 PM
    wilomn
    Re: Snake flipping
    Hmmmm, lead, follow.....what to do, what to do.....such weighty decisions......
  • 05-25-2009, 02:46 PM
    DixiePythons
    Re: Snake flipping
    I think it would be wrong to "flip" an animal without the buyers knowledge.
    I have flipped several, but the buyer was fully aware that the "flipped" animal
    has not been in my care very long. Truth will always stand!!! lol
    But the world is full of unethical people chasing the almighty dollar, and
    that is where the problem is.
  • 05-25-2009, 02:51 PM
    Bleepr
    Re: Snake flipping
    As truthful as I am, the buy would be fully aware by the time of purchase. No worries there.
  • 05-25-2009, 03:19 PM
    Shadera
    Re: Snake flipping
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TylerxToxic View Post
    whats snake flipping? :confused:

    Cityfied version of cow tipping. ;)

    Hey Heather.. When you get done with that pole, come have a look at my snake. LMAO

    But seriously. I really don't mind someone doing it as long as they're doing it ethically and with some care for the animals. I generally try not to deal with those folks, but if they were genuine enough and had something that really interested me I might.
  • 05-25-2009, 03:32 PM
    dr del
    Re: Snake flipping
    Hi,

    One thing aside form the ethical considerations.

    Quarantine. In multiple areas if you have many batches coming in.

    If you are having a lot of snakes pass through your care then the chances of something going wrong increases.

    Last thing anyones reputation needs is a taint of spreading disease or mites etc.


    dr del
  • 05-25-2009, 03:37 PM
    twh
    Re: Snake flipping
    it gets down to the person who's doing the selling,responsible herper or fast buck artist.flipping in itself is not bad or means the seller is a bad guy/gal.

    first two questions when i inquire about a animal,how does it eat and how long have you had it.

    buying at wholesale and selling at retail is how much of our everyday life works.have fun!
  • 05-25-2009, 11:04 PM
    mechnut450
    Re: Snake flipping
    I guess I am considera flipper lol I get snakes in from rescues and once they are deemed ready I offer them up for adoptionand such. I only chargea minuim fee to help cover the cost of the caring of them while they were QT( live vets,meds and such) outside that I raise them asif they are part of my collection because until I find them new homes they are part of my collection.
  • 05-25-2009, 11:30 PM
    Mettle
    Re: Snake flipping
    I agree with what seems to be the consensus here. So long as the seller is honest with his/her potential buyer(s) about where the snake came from, how long he/she has had it and doesn't intentionally sell a sick snake then I don't see a problem with it.

    The issue of quarantine and multiple snakes passing through, if done on a larger scale, are definitely worth noting.
  • 05-25-2009, 11:32 PM
    iCandiBallPythons
    Re: Snake flipping
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mechnut450 View Post
    I guess I am considera flipper lol I get snakes in from rescues and once they are deemed ready I offer them up for adoptionand such. I only chargea minuim fee to help cover the cost of the caring of them while they were QT( live vets,meds and such) outside that I raise them asif they are part of my collection because until I find them new homes they are part of my collection.

    Flipping means buying something at a lower price and reselling it at a higher price for profit. I wouldnt think placing a fee on the said adoptable animal to cover the care/vet bills etc. would be considered flipping.
  • 05-26-2009, 11:39 AM
    wolfy-hound
    Re: Snake flipping
    Seconded. A adoption fee for a rescued animal that has been health checked is not "flipping" or selling.
  • 05-26-2009, 03:53 PM
    iCandiBallPythons
    Re: Snake flipping
    Typo.........
  • 06-30-2009, 08:22 PM
    OhhWatALoser
    Re: Snake flipping
    i always wondering about doing it, you go to big reptile expos or on here and see stuff so cheap then go to local shows and craiglist and see all their prices nearly double.
  • 06-30-2009, 10:05 PM
    frankykeno
    Re: Snake flipping
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LadyOhh View Post
    LMFAO!!

    Okay, I have yet to have my coffee...

    So I thought you were talking about turning over snakes and watching them flip back over..

    AHAHAHAHAHaHaH!!!!

    :8:

    Sorry, I'm lame.

    I'm lame too because I swear I read the thread title and thought "why are they turning their snakes over? maybe to see their bellies?"

    Cow tipping also came to mind. :oops:

    My only real excuse is I moved recently and I may have packed part of my brain away since I've been a scatterbrained stressed out freak for the past two weeks.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mechnut450 View Post
    I guess I am considera flipper lol I get snakes in from rescues and once they are deemed ready I offer them up for adoptionand such. I only chargea minuim fee to help cover the cost of the caring of them while they were QT( live vets,meds and such) outside that I raise them asif they are part of my collection because until I find them new homes they are part of my collection.

    That's not flipping, at least not to my mind.

    Regardless of how you got the snake, how long you kept it, whatever - be absolutely upfront and honest with your potential buyer. If you do that, they are fully informed and can make the decision they feel most comfortable with. Along with that of course comes your responsibility to use appropriate quarantine measures and treat the snakes with caring and responsibility.

    If you flip irresponsibly and the snakes are nothing but scaley dollar signs that aren't given good treatment or if you flip and don't let your customers know or purposefully mislead them - be aware, this is a really small world. People will find out about you and snake people are really fast about spreading the word.
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