What kind of snake is this?

My girlfriend called me up today saying she found her chihuahua/rat terrior playing with this and one other like it on her property today. I haven't got a chance to see it myself, but it looks like an oketee Corn to me, same as the one I have. The problem with that analysis is that this was found in Livingston County in Mid Michigan, where as far as I'm aware it is too cold for corns. She'll be brining it to me tomorrow. For size reference, that is the bottom of a 3 gallon pail.

Any help positively identifying?
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y14...i/snake001.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y14...i/snake002.jpg

I "think" it's an Eastern Milksnake.

http://www.michigan.gov/dnr/0,1607,7...1211--,00.html

Ben, surely you've caught/bred/kept/seen this before, what do you think it is?

Eastern Milk Snake for sure.

More or less same care as a corn?

Is there some identifying factor that assures its a eastern milk?

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Originally Posted by Serpents_Den

Eastern Milk Snake for sure.

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No no no, you're not playing the game right.

FIRST Ben has to tell us if what we THINK it is, it is THEN we can say for sure that it IS an Eastern Milk.

See how it works?

lol

They're a little more secretive, tend to start eating later in the year and stop earlier in the year than corns but have an excellent attitude as a rule.

I just can't find any eastern milks that look like that online

Hi,

They seem to be quite variable;

http://images.google.co.uk/images?hl...=eastern+milk+


dr del

Sure looks like an eastern milk to me. This guy we found 2 springs ago, very early on when it was still quite cool outside. Chris nearly stepped on him, he was just a little wormy neonate. They are supposed to lose that brilliant grey and red color, and turn mostly brown, I think. :oops:

We took a few pics, and let him go.

http://www.metalmonkeyexotics.com/im...stern_milk.jpg

So I got him now.. My girlfriend was of coarse scared of touching him and handling him, as he seemed aggressive. He was shaking his tail at me, so I gave him a min to calm down, then I went and picked him up. Very docile and nice now. And really pretty. I'll take pics and post a new thread when I get a chance.

To me it looks positively like an Eastern Milksnake, lampropeltis triangulum triangulum. I catch these guys by the buttloads each summer, from hatchlings to adults. As babies they are bright white with brilliant red saddles boredered in black. They tend to lose their luster as an adult, and fade to a dull gray/tan with brownish red saddles. The adults I have caught I find, if they don't immediately become aggressive, they will act all calm and friendly, you pick them up, and then out of nowhere they give you a good hard bite! Usually the moment you are in their presence they are making every attempt to coil, strike, and rattle their little tail. Many people in rural areas refer to this species as "Spotted Adder".

Here are some pictures of some I found last year:

hatchling female I kept and still have, eats better than most cali kings!!!
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/l...lks/836011.jpg

baby male in shed
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/l...lks/285015.jpg

angry adult female
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/l...lks/285078.jpg

another that was calmer
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/l...lks/467078.jpg

oh, I almost forgot to add- beware... they eat snakes!!! They are lampropeltis (kingsnakes) after all!

He just got out, can't find him! See my other thread...
http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...60#post1061660

That my friend is a Eastern Milksnake.
They come with different patterns and sometimes light in color to dark.
Very common snake found through out the united states.
Care is the same as a Cornsnake.
Very tough animals and do well in a captive sictuation.

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Originally Posted by letstalksnakes

Very common snake found through out the united states.

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Ummmm, you may have a tough time finding one out west, or down south but hey, it's not so much square milage wise. Is it?

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Originally Posted by letstalksnakes

That my friend is a Eastern Milksnake.
They come with different patterns and sometimes light in color to dark.
Very common snake found through out the united states.
Care is the same as a Cornsnake.
Very tough animals and do well in a captive sictuation.

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don't you mean... common in the northeastern US????

I've only ever found one of those - it was an adult, and while it was pretty even-tempered, it never fed well for me. The only thing it ever ate on its own was a nestful of vole fuzzies I found in the same area. (abandoned trailer park - littered with sheets of plywood, you could easily find thirty or fourty snakes there in an hour or two. Of course, they were all garters or dekays, with that one notable exception . . . )

Good luck locating the little guy!

~Bruce