Isn't this overkill??

I was just surfing random snake sites, and came across this rescue group in Colorado... they had a list of recommended enclosure sizes, and I was quite surprised at their suggestions! http://www.corhs.org/habitat.html

55 gallons minimum for a BP? And an entire room for an iguana? :hmm: My (baby) BPs are in 10/15 gallon tanks, and they seem to be doing fine... when they're bigger, I was planning to upgrade to 20-30 gallons. Isn't that what is usually recommended? Just wanted to make sure I wasn't delusional, LOL.

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Originally Posted by Lolo76

I was just surfing random snake sites, and came across this rescue group in Colorado... they had a list of recommended enclosure sizes, and I was quite surprised at their suggestions! http://www.corhs.org/habitat.html

55 gallons minimum for a BP? And an entire room for an iguana? :hmm: My (baby) BPs are in 10/15 gallon tanks, and they seem to be doing fine... when they're bigger, I was planning to upgrade to 20-30 gallons. Isn't that what is usually recommended? Just wanted to make sure I wasn't delusional, LOL.

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I have a 55gallon long tank in my garage and I can't see my baby ball python liking that very much... :bolt:

But I agree with them about an iguana having a whole room to itself, especially if its an adult. They need trees and things.

Ya those sizes are way overkill. They have minimum for leopard gecko's are 30 gallon, a gecko would get lost in a 30 heh.

Lol. I have my little ball in a 55 right now. I can't wait to switch to tubs. She eats fine, and is healthy, but she pushes her hides toward the middle. She only likes to use the middle of the aquarium I guess. I wake up in the morning and everything is set in the middle of her tank.

Glad to see I'm not alone in my opinion, LOL. :D I know rescue groups have a tendency to overdo it, but do they really think people will meet those requirements? They said you must provide pictures of your setup, and I doubt many would be willing to get a 125 gallon for their BP. Weird! They do have some nice snakes, though...

Here's a picture of a 125g... my babies would be SOOOO lost in there! :O Even seems too large for a full-grown BP, don't you think?

http://www.qshifterhobbies.com/image...125_gallon.jpg

Well, I think a lot of people think that too big is better then too small and so have a tendency to recommend something too large. However I think the numbers they have listed for 'recommended' sizes are way too big. A room sized enclosure for a boa constrictor? 125 gallon aquarium for a ball python? 75 gallon aquariums for corn and king snakes? The snakes would get lost in something that size. Their 'minimum' sizes are what I would think of as recommended for Adults but they're still far too large for babys and subadults of those species. I don't care what kind of range they are said to have in the wild, we aren't keeping them in the wild. They're captives and we supply all their needs. If snakes don't have to travel to find food and water and shelter, then they don't.

This is where I got my ball python from. The really seemed totally ignorant to the actual facts of how to care for their snakes. The snakes were all in glass tanks with only a single half log hide. And they completely ignored me since I picked up my snake. They never give you a phone number to call just an email address and it took them on average two weeks to get back to me. But like I said Since I've gotten my snake they have stopped responding which is one more reason I'm glad to be apart of a community like this so I'm not listening to bad advise by "experts".

Those guys are idiots! Not only do they recommend sizes of enclosures that are wrong, mostly through ignorance of the actual sizes of the tanks, but they are the pickiest people ever! I thought the idea of a rescue was to find good homes for the animals, not nitpick over every single thing an applicant writes so that no one is 'good enough'.

I applied there for the BTS they have. Their application is the most detailed and demanding I've ever seen AND they make you pay a $10 fee. I filled in everything, showing them that I really knew my stuff about BTS and that I had all the needed equipment to care for one. They wrote back saying they couldn't adopt to 'someone who would breed or resell their animals'! They assumed this just because I honestly answered that I'd sold some of my snakes to a breeder friend! Geez, it's not like I was getting animals all the time only to resell them, or planning a huge breeding operation...but they made their assumptions and naturally wouldn't listen when I tried to explain things.

I normally love rescue groups, but this one seems a little too PETAish for my tastes. Wish I could get my $10 back. :mad:

You mean they charge you a fee just to fill out the paperwork? And then there are guarantees whether or not you'll be accepted and either way they keep the money? Sounds like a scam to me. What kind of 'adoption' fees do they charge if you ARE found acceptable? I'd probably be calling the better business bureau or someone like that.

I joined a great local rescue which is where I got my first snake from. It is $50 to join for the year, and you get basically free vet care then. The snakes there are really nice animals too, some high contrast JCPs, BRBs, etc... all $25 each. You just can't use them to breed, which is understandable.

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Originally Posted by MarkS

You mean they charge you a fee just to fill out the paperwork? And then there are guarantees whether or not you'll be accepted and either way they keep the money? Sounds like a scam to me. What kind of 'adoption' fees do they charge if you ARE found acceptable? I'd probably be calling the better business bureau or someone like that.

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I agree, that's pretty shady... but I encountered dog rescues that were just as picky, which is why I ended up just going to the pound (where I got my Rudy). One Aussie rescue rejected me because I worked 15-20 hours a week - and they said the owner should be home full-time. Whah??? Do they really think a dog can't handle being alone a few hours a day? I realize that particular dog had some separation anxiety, but how is he going to overcome it if you're home ALL day? Anyway, I do think some of them go overboard, which only hurts the animals in the end. :rolleyes:

Sounds like a good group to make a BOI post about. (Or add to an existing one since I bet it's already there...)

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Originally Posted by MarkS

You mean they charge you a fee just to fill out the paperwork? And then there are guarantees whether or not you'll be accepted and either way they keep the money? Sounds like a scam to me. What kind of 'adoption' fees do they charge if you ARE found acceptable? I'd probably be calling the better business bureau or someone like that.

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Pretty much. There are no guarantees that you'll get the animal, but if you do get accepted (fat chance with how picky they are) then the $10 gets applied to the adoption fee.

It's like the CO House Rabbit Society here... they wouldn't even consider me because I own snakes. Never mind the fact that any rabbit but a newborn would be bigger than my snakes... :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Argentra

It's like the CO House Rabbit Society here... they wouldn't even consider me because I own snakes. Never mind the fact that any rabbit but a newborn would be bigger than my snakes... :rolleyes:

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LOL. :D Some people are really ignorant about snake feeding... my friend was afraid to bring her (small) dogs over to my house, because "what if your snakes try to eat them?" Mmmmkay. :rofl: