HELP WTH is this??

? head went to go use the bathroom saw him strain a bit and even push his belly to the ground and lift both legs up, and then walk away from this, it's pretty flat, if it's an egg it's infertile and my HE is a SHE as well.. if not i need to know what it is no vets around here open on sat's :(...

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...s/GEDC0316.jpg
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...s/GEDC0317.jpg
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...s/GEDC0318.jpg

second i opened it i knew what it was was hard to get off the paper but didn't break was leathery and when i cut it i knew immediately...

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...s/GEDC0322.jpg
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...s/GEDC0327.jpg
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...s/GEDC0321.jpg

It's an egg, so he is a she. How long have you had her? Are you sure it's infertile?

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Originally Posted by llovelace

It's an egg, so he is a she. How long have you had her? Are you sure it's infertile?

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It Is Now LOL!!

about a week and a half from my friend who is a breeder, had these 2 together, however the ? head was to be the male, my other is supposed to be the female, and tht's the one i was keeping an eye on, and was bred to a raptor unless males will "lock" it has to be a female as well, he said he didn't breed these 2 yet cause the male was a little young and didn't do anything, well atleast now i know why HAHAHAHA.

as tot he sure it's infertile, well i know it is now :(

can ball pythons really take out an egg without being introduced to a male...

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Originally Posted by psycho

can ball pythons really take out an egg without being introduced to a male...

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all egg laying animals can , usually dont, but can happen all my chameleons and leo's in the past have, just i haven't seen one this big and the last infertile one i had from my old leo was very small and def. egg like, this was just HUGE hehe.

ok now i feel bad there's no dispute now, ? head was the one in the breeding pictures, and if this egg was fertile i just killed it is it possible it was infertile anyway with it being "deflated" i'm asked if i have calc supp. which i do always is there anythign i could have done to make them better?

breeding photos: NOTE: this male is his, not either of mine, male is RAPTOR
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...eclipse001.jpg
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...eclipse002.jpg

current photos (what i thought was the female)
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...s/GEDC0335.jpg
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...s/GEDC0339.jpg

? head which i thought was the male and was reassured was the female, now i just broke my own heart :(
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...s/GEDC0344.jpg
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...s/GEDC0348.jpg

If you are housing them together, make sure the female maintains a good weight during breeding season, and make sure she has a laying box, to lay her eggs in.

Sorry about the egg :( Just out of curisoity, do you have any pics of your leo's from underneath?

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Originally Posted by Boanerges

Sorry about the egg :( Just out of curisoity, do you have any pics of your leo's from underneath?

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i've been trying for weeks no luck i have a glass i tried but the flash gets in the way, without a flash it's too dark to see :( or blurry i'm pretty sure judging by the pics the ? head was the one in the breeding picture based off the spots, anyone else able to help me out identify which is in the picture?

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Originally Posted by llovelace

If you are housing them together, make sure the female maintains a good weight during breeding season, and make sure she has a laying box, to lay her eggs in.

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if you look in the pictures the one i thought was the one in the picture, is in their box, the new humid hides i made them there's 2 of them in there like that, with sphag. moss in them is that not good enough?