Black Eye'd Lucy/Blue Eye'd Lucy

Im just wondering has a cross between the two been made and if so, what color are the eyes? If not, is any1 working on it?

I believe I've seen a fire mojave picture and it was NOT a white snake. It's generally believed that the blue eyed complex (lesser/butter, mojave, Vin Russo, mocha, phantom, mystic, special) will not be compatible with the black eyed (fire/sulfur).

RDR has done both lesser/fire and butter/fire. Like Randy said, not white snakes.

i have wondered this too.... Be kind of pointless.... but, at the same time... i wonder.

A visual for both black eyed and blue eyed.... heh.

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Originally Posted by asplundii

RDR has done both lesser/fire and butter/fire. Like Randy said, not white snakes.

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Happen to have a link to pics?

Butter x Fire is clutch 28 of 2008

http://www.ralphdavisreptiles.com/bi...thons_3_08.asp

Lesser x Fire is clutch 77 of 2007

http://www.ralphdavisreptiles.com/bi...thons_8_07.asp

It's a subtle change from the butter or lesser by themselves, but I really like it. It'd be nice to see what they look like now.

This may not be what he ment in his question but I'd be interested to know what you'd get if you were to say breed a Lesser/Fire to a Lesser/Fire... So a double super of the two leucistics. Something like a super pewter.

no one has produced a snake that is homozygous for blue eyed and black eyed lucy yet, as stated before, since there are lesser/fires out there, there we are only one generation away from someone trying to hit that combo.

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Originally Posted by Enser54

This may not be what he ment in his question but I'd be interested to know what you'd get if you were to say breed a Lesser/Fire to a Lesser/Fire... So a double super of the two leucistics. Something like a super pewter.

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Thats basically what i said. :gj:

I have 2 females black eyed lucys that are at least likely to be mojaves and possibly super mojaves. They're from a sulfur mojave x sulfur mojave clutch. It'll be a few years before I'll know for sure what they are since I'll have to breed them to be sure. You can see they have a funky 2 tone white with pattern running down the back.

https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...8/dsc_0525.jpg

https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...8/dsc_0535.jpg

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Originally Posted by Enser54

This may not be what he ment in his question but I'd be interested to know what you'd get if you were to say breed a Lesser/Fire to a Lesser/Fire... So a double super of the two leucistics. Something like a super pewter.

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Yea this is what I meant. Guess I worded it wrong.

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Originally Posted by mooingtricycle

Thats basically what i said. :gj:

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My bad, I thought everyone was talking about if a Fire+Lesser made a white snake, didn't realize you were saying what I was saying lol


--Eric, that is a beautiful snake, I see the two-tone look you mentioned. Very interesting.

Based on that pic Eric I am inclined to agree that you likely have a double super where the base white is coming from the BlkEL and the pattern white is from the BluEL. Definitely be interesting to see you breed those out.