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Minimum Cage Size

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  • 05-08-2009, 10:01 PM
    ballin
    Minimum Cage Size
    What is the minimum cage/tub for a adult ball python? just wondering.
  • 05-08-2009, 10:04 PM
    Kaorte
    Re: Minimum Cage Size
    20gallon long or a 32qt tub.

    :)
  • 05-08-2009, 10:06 PM
    ballin
    Re: Minimum Cage Size
    thanks, what are the dimensions of a 32 quart tub?
  • 05-08-2009, 10:09 PM
    Kaorte
    Re: Minimum Cage Size
    I use 32qt tubs that are roughly 14"widex24"longx6"high
  • 05-08-2009, 10:44 PM
    rynpckrd
    Re: Minimum Cage Size
    I use a 10-gallon and that works just fine as far as I can tell.
  • 05-08-2009, 10:56 PM
    chetman7
    Re: Minimum Cage Size
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rynpckrd View Post
    I use a 10-gallon and that works just fine as far as I can tell.

    I would say a 20 gallon minimum
  • 05-08-2009, 11:03 PM
    rynpckrd
    Re: Minimum Cage Size
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by chetman7 View Post
    I would say a 20 gallon minimum

    The general impression I've gotten was that a 10-gallon tank would suffice for up to a year.

    Is this a wrong assumption?
  • 05-08-2009, 11:05 PM
    Spaniard
    Re: Minimum Cage Size
    Original poster asked about an adult bp min cage size.
  • 05-08-2009, 11:09 PM
    rynpckrd
    Re: Minimum Cage Size
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Spaniard View Post
    Original poster asked about an adult bp min cage size.

    Ah.

    I should have read that twice, haha.
  • 05-09-2009, 07:12 PM
    ballin
    Re: Minimum Cage Size
    I have heard that a lot of people keep them in 10 gals there whole life.
  • 05-09-2009, 07:29 PM
    rynpckrd
    Re: Minimum Cage Size
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ballin View Post
    I have heard that a lot of people keep them in 10 gals there whole life.

    I wouldn't be surprised if that's what pet stores tell people.

    However, the general rule of thumb that I've read on this forum and from caresheets is that once a ball has passed a year, at least a 20-gallon is necessary.
  • 05-09-2009, 09:17 PM
    rynpckrd
    Re: Minimum Cage Size
    What are people's thoughts on the Exo Terra glass terrariums?
  • 05-09-2009, 10:45 PM
    Sarin
    Re: Minimum Cage Size
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rynpckrd View Post
    What are people's thoughts on the Exo Terra glass terrariums?

    I think they are great. We use these for our Amphibians and Lizards at the Pet Store, and one for a small Kenyan Sand Boa. The BP's are kept in 20g aquariums, though.

    They are very easy to clean and virtually escape proof as long as you remember to lock it. :D
  • 05-10-2009, 12:02 AM
    rynpckrd
    Re: Minimum Cage Size
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sarin View Post
    I think they are great. We use these for our Amphibians and Lizards at the Pet Store, and one for a small Kenyan Sand Boa. The BP's are kept in 20g aquariums, though.

    They are very easy to clean and virtually escape proof as long as you remember to lock it. :D

    When I was looking at them, they seemed more tall than long, at least, the ones in the 20 gallon range. Or are there actually more than what their web-site has shown?
  • 05-10-2009, 12:05 AM
    reptilerookie19
    Re: Minimum Cage Size
    I hate it when people keep any animal confined to a small space for a long time.
    Ticks me off
  • 05-10-2009, 02:03 AM
    wuldier
    Re: Minimum Cage Size
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rynpckrd View Post
    What are people's thoughts on the Exo Terra glass terrariums?

    i just got my BP, i got her from a guy and she is 2 years old and she is in a Exo Terra glass terrarium, its 18X18X18.

    its an awesome tank, tho i think i want a 24X18X18.
  • 05-10-2009, 10:17 AM
    Sarin
    Re: Minimum Cage Size
    They come in all sorts of sizes to fit a lot of different needs. I personally love them.
  • 05-10-2009, 01:14 PM
    ballin
    Re: Minimum Cage Size
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rynpckrd View Post
    When I was looking at them, they seemed more tall than long, at least, the ones in the 20 gallon range. Or are there actually more than what their web-site has shown?

    there are a lot of different ones, ranging from the smallest, 12x12x12 to the biggest, 36x24x24
  • 05-10-2009, 01:21 PM
    psycho
    Re: Minimum Cage Size
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ballin View Post
    I have heard that a lot of people keep them in 10 gals there whole life.

    Some ball pythons really dont mind staying in a 10 gallon thier whole life but some even get stressed due to a little bit of space...20 long gallon shall do fine...but me personally i'll keep it in a 40 gallon
  • 05-10-2009, 01:47 PM
    waltah!
    Re: Minimum Cage Size
    I have a baby carpet in a small exo-terra and my ATB in the bigger one. I know they make ones that are longer with less height as well. I love em for these particular snakes.
  • 05-11-2009, 03:55 PM
    Dundee85
    Re: Minimum Cage Size
    I did a home-made terrarium which measures 4'x2'x18". Allows a nice gradient setup and plenty of room for him. And because it was homemade, it was cheaper than buying an equivalent sized cage.

    Some people will say that it is too large. I don't know where people get the idea that enclosures can be too big... wild pythons live in the great outdoors with no boundaries. As long as you provide adequate hides, it can be as large as you want. And when he is in his roaming moods, he'll be all over the enclosure.
  • 05-11-2009, 04:05 PM
    Spaniard
    Re: Minimum Cage Size
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dundee85 View Post
    I did a home-made terrarium which measures 4'x2'x18". Allows a nice gradient setup and plenty of room for him. And because it was homemade, it was cheaper than buying an equivalent sized cage.

    Some people will say that it is too large. I don't know where people get the idea that enclosures can be too big... wild pythons live in the great outdoors with no boundaries. As long as you provide adequate hides, it can be as large as you want. And when he is in his roaming moods, he'll be all over the enclosure.

    Its not that people get the idea that enclosures can be too big its that fact that enclosures become harder to maintain the bigger they are. This site has a lot of beginners with some having kept no other form of exotic animal before. Not realizing the extent of money and time they will need to properly maintain a 40 gallon breeder.

    We will often recommend a smaller enclosure to give the beginner a chance to enjoy his new animal while at the same time providing the animal with the proper care to make sure it feeds and thrives in their care.

    I think we can all agree that a 10 or 20 gallon tank is easier to clean and maintain than something much larger.
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