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ok so I recently got a male albino and female pastel from a local breeder. And well after the fact, he just called me today and decided to tell me that the pastel was locked up with his spider, and then about a couple months ago she was locked up with the albino I purchased from him. So I go in my room and palpate her. I have never done this before but I attempted to palpate and I felt 4-6 marble sized lumps around 2/3rd the way down her body. And now the thing is..... She is only 1040g. So what do I do because I know there is a risk of having an under weight pregnant bp going eggbound. I am actually trying to return her but if that does not work out what should I do? Is there something a vet can do, like an abortion? Or should I just ride it out and see what happens????? PLEASE HELLPPPP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Is she eating? but she probably is not prego, hopefully someone with alot more experience will chime in

Who told you that a 1040g snake would become egg bound? That is a perfect weight for a breeding female. You will just get a few less eggs from her. Anyway, keep breeding the albino to her and have Fun!

Many, many people on these forums advocate a minimum of 1500 grams for breeding bp females, specifically because of the increased risk of becoming eggbound from underweight breeding. It is a fact that it is statistically more likely for a 1000 gram female to become eggbound than a 1500+ gram female.

That said, I'd say get yourself an incubator and see if you can't hatch out some eggs, people do successfully breed females at weights less than most will recommend.

Just keep feeding her! Offer as often as possible! Don't bother seeing a vet, they're not going to be much help in a situation like this.

Shes already half way there. Keep it up and see if you can't double your odds!

You could possibly get bumblebees, spiders, het albinos and pastels het albino!

You are actually sitting on a potential goldmine with her. The possible combinations of hatchlings you could get are unbelievable! I wish I had your luck! I recommend you get set up QUICKLY and get ready to hatch yourself some gorgeous little Ball Morphs! ;)

Hi,

Not to be a damp squib or anything but surely if you can still feel folicles then is not garuanteed to lay anything?

To be honest at that size I would not introduce any new males to her - if the lock ups she had prior to you getting her took then you just have to deal with any possible consequences.

Either way you weren't responsible - but if you keep pairing her up and things turn out badly then you very well might be.

Keep her feeding routine going, watch her behaviour, and leave it in the lap of the ball python gods.


dr del

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Hi,

Not to be a damp squib or anything but surely if you can still feel folicles then is not garuanteed to lay anything?

To be honest at that size I would not introduce any new males to her - if the lock ups she had prior to you getting her took then you just have to deal with any possible consequences.

Either way you weren't responsible - but if you keep pairing her up and things turn out badly then you very well might be.

Keep her feeding routine going, watch her behaviour, and leave it in the lap of the ball python gods.


dr del

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thanks, but how was I not responsible. And who are you to judge me?

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Hi,

Not to be a damp squib or anything but surely if you can still feel folicles then is not garuanteed to lay anything?

To be honest at that size I would not introduce any new males to her - if the lock ups she had prior to you getting her took then you just have to deal with any possible consequences.

Either way you weren't responsible - but if you keep pairing her up and things turn out badly then you very well might be.

Keep her feeding routine going, watch her behaviour, and leave it in the lap of the ball python gods.

dr del

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Ima goof ball! Sorry!
Mike.

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thanks, but how was I not responsible. And who are you to judge me?

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misunderstanding Rocky.He is saying it is not your fault she may be preg.
Mike.

Hi,

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I think we have the first bit of that sorted out - I meant it would not be your fault not that you had acted in an irresponible manner. :)

As to the second part?

I am someone who unintentionally bred a small female and actually had her retain eggs and suffer for it.

http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...ad.php?t=39527

I sadly know firsthand that a "low chance" of eggbinding etc does not mean "no chance" :(

Now she was around 1300-1400g at the time of breeding if I am remembering correctly - a full third larger than the female you are discussing.

She made a full recovery by the way and I am actually pairing her up again this year - but if she has any further breeding related problems she will never be bred again. It just wouldn't be fair to her.

But the reason I posted was I knew how horrible I felt knowing that I had caused her those problems and would quite like other people not to have to feel like that.

When I joined this site I was making every mistake in the book plus a few of my own invention. :rolleyes:


dr del

BTW Reptiles dont get Pregnant or Prego they get Gravid ;)

wooooooooooooooo

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thanks for the tip genius. Oh, by the way is BY THE WAY, not BTW. So thanks now we both know something we didn't know before :8::8:

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thanks for the tip genius. Oh, by the way is BY THE WAY, not BTW. So thanks now we both know something we didn't know before :8::8:

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Now you're just making an ass of yourself. :colbert:

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thanks, but how was I not responsible. And who are you to judge me?

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Hes not judgeing you but the act of what you might be doing...

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thanks for the tip genius. Oh, by the way is BY THE WAY, not BTW. So thanks now we both know something we didn't know before :8::8:

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BTW You should really chill out before posting ;)

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thanks for the tip genius. Oh, by the way is BY THE WAY, not BTW. So thanks now we both know something we didn't know before :8::8:

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Wow! what is up with the attitude?

I wouldn't worry about it. I'm sure she will be fine. I also think that egg binding is less common than you think. From what I understand, smaller female lay smaller eggs, so should not have any issues passing them.

Good luck!

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Originally Posted by mainbutter

It is a fact that it is statistically more likely for a 1000 gram female to become eggbound than a 1500+ gram female.

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Do you have any proof? Documentation?