Caramel X Mojave or Cinnamon ???????

Has either one of these been created?:D:oops:

i think one of those has been made...the best thing to do is google the morphs you want to find out have been made or not.

did that already didn't find anything

Neither has been made yet. But, I would expect one or both of them this year.

p.s. There is a picture of a Caramel Mojave in the VPI book, however, after verifying with TSK, it was really a Hypo Mojave.

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Originally Posted by muddoc

p.s. There is a picture of a Caramel Mojave in the VPI book, however, after verifying with TSK, it was really a Hypo Mojave.

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That would explain then... I was also thinking of the normal albino cinny.

I am working on the Caramel Mojave. I have had 2 girls ovulate and looks as though a more will go before the end of the year. I think it will be a SWEET morph it its' own right that will work well mixed into many projects. I know I am looking forward to mixing them into some of my existing projects. :D

Whats a Hypo Pied look like i cant find a pic of one on google

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Originally Posted by B@LLZ4LIFE

Whats a Hypo Pied look like i cant find a pic of one on google

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I put up a youtube vid in the other thread you started about this one Omar

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Originally Posted by Bill Buchman

I am working on the Caramel Mojave. I have had 2 girls ovulate and looks as though a more will go before the end of the year. I think it will be a SWEET morph it its' own right that will work well mixed into many projects. I know I am looking forward to mixing them into some of my existing projects. :D

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I think if this morph is created and then a pair were put together it could possible create an:O all orange snake and that would be sick

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Originally Posted by Bill Buchman

I am working on the Caramel Mojave. I have had 2 girls ovulate and looks as though a more will go before the end of the year. I think it will be a SWEET morph it its' own right that will work well mixed into many projects. I know I am looking forward to mixing them into some of my existing projects. :D

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Glad to hear it. I've long thought that a caramel mojave would be very nice. Back in 2002 I started trying to breed my Garcia girl to a 66% chance het caramel I used to own (I thought she might have been a mojave). Looking forward to seeing your results!

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Originally Posted by RandyRemington

Glad to hear it. I've long thought that a caramel mojave would be very nice. Back in 2002 I started trying to breed my Garcia girl to a 66% chance het caramel I used to own (I thought she might have been a mojave). Looking forward to seeing your results!

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Thanks Randy,
I started my breeding 6 weeks later than last year and have lowered my temps a bit from last year as well -- seems to have slowed/delayed production down a smidge. That's O.K. -- it is a long season no matter how you cut it.:)

I SHOULD get enough eggs to hit the one 1 in 8 odds. Of course, I am hoping for at least 1 MALE!!! :banana:

I have 2 2500+ gram girls that are doing everything except ovulating!!! They are building and should give me good clutches if they go. So far it is the smaller girls that are set to lay. One is Double Het for Glow. I'll be holding that clutch for sure!! First girl is due to lay May 10th and looks to have 5-6 good ones in her. Fingers are crossed.;)

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Originally Posted by B@LLZ4LIFE

I think if this morph is created and then a pair were put together it could possible create an:O all orange snake and that would be sick

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your right!! i havent even thought of that, techniclly a super cinnamon caramel could be all orange, wow i got dibs!!!!!!!!!:D lol. as im sure someone is already getting close!!! damn! yet i still have not heard of a cinny 100% for caramel being done

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Originally Posted by SUPERBALLS

your right!! i havent even thought of that, techniclly a super cinnamon caramel could be all orange, wow i got dibs!!!!!!!!!:D lol. as im sure someone is already getting close!!! damn! yet i still have not heard of a cinny 100% for caramel being done

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Greg Graziani had some 08 Cinny Het Caramel males a few months ago -- might still have them. I am pairing my Upscale Caramel male with a Cinny girl this season. Nice project that some other folks are working on for sure. :)

Next season I'm starting my caramel projects. I planning breeding my male caramel to my cinny, mojave and yellow-belly. Just hope the yb gets up to size for 2010.

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Originally Posted by pauletto

Next season I'm starting my caramel projects. I planning breeding my male caramel to my cinny, mojave and yellow-belly. Just hope the yb gets up to size for 2010.

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Good luck on those breedings. :gj:

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Originally Posted by Bill Buchman

Greg Graziani had some 08 Cinny Het Caramel males a few months ago -- might still have them. I am pairing my Upscale Caramel male with a Cinny girl this season. Nice project that some other folks are working on for sure. :)

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Good luck on those projects Bill. I also am planning on starting some of those next year. My first breeding next year will be my Hypo Cinny bred to a Caramel female. I always wanted to start a Glow project, and what better way than throwing one extra gene in there.

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Good luck on those projects Bill. I also am planning on starting some of those next year. My first breeding next year will be my Hypo Cinny bred to a Caramel female. I always wanted to start a Glow project, and what better way than throwing one extra gene in there.

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Agreed on that extra gene Tim. ;) Cinnies AND Y.B's are going to be worked into the Caramel Mojave out here -- as soon as I get a visual. :)

Good choice on your initial breeding -- nice mix of genes. :gj:

Good luck to all that try this breeding i would like an all ORANGE snake if it is created i think it would come from the caramel cinny and then pair two of them together thus making the SUPER CARAMEL CINNY

This cinnamon female had her pre-lay shed on 4/15:
http://jefflumanreptiles.com/clutche...1_breeding.jpg
Hopefully I'll have some cinnamons het for caramel in a couple months!

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This cinnamon female had her pre-lay shed on 4/15:
http://jefflumanreptiles.com/clutche...1_breeding.jpg
Hopefully I'll have some cinnamons het for caramel in a couple months!

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Best of luck on that pairing/odds Jeff. I tend to get a "little free wheeling" with my pairings now and again. Had a first lock yesterday between my Mojave Het Caramel to a Cinny girl that I just moved into my breeding rotation. Hoping for girls to hold back raise up, put something Caramel on them have cross my fingers and get those odds. :)

Best of luck the rest of the season to all. Is there even a "SEASON" anymore???:confused::confused::confused:

very nice pair i want some of those babys

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Originally Posted by muddoc

Good luck on those projects Bill. I also am planning on starting some of those next year. My first breeding next year will be my Hypo Cinny bred to a Caramel female. I always wanted to start a Glow project, and what better way than throwing one extra gene in there.

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We ahve a similar plan for glows using our hypo-mojo male as a starting point, like you say,,,it doesn't hurt to throw and extra gene or two in ;)

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Originally Posted by mason

We ahve a similar plan for glows using our hypo-mojo male as a starting point, like you say,,,it doesn't hurt to throw and extra gene or two in ;)

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Mason,
I was thinking of using our Hypo Mojave as well. However, I wanted the option to make a Homozygous Co-dom gened animal along with the Glow (i.e. I thought a Super Cinny Glow would looke better than a BEL Glow). I also have a HoneyBee I could do the project with,m but I think the Cinny Glow would look better.

Good luck on your project as well.