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Quick Mite Question

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  • 04-30-2009, 09:14 PM
    BPMIKE
    Quick Mite Question
    Just got 2 pastels 1 albino. all had mites. I already have pam. I followeed the directions. What I want to know is how long do I leave the pam in the tub and will one dose work?
    Thank You Mike.
  • 05-01-2009, 12:19 PM
    dr del
    Re: Quick Mite Question
    Hi,

    What do the instructions on the can say? And what kind of substrate are you using?

    I think the normal practice is the re-treat in 30 days to make sure you kill any of them that hatch in the meantime ( it doesn't kill the eggs it just kills anything that hatches after treatment thanks to the residual effect ) but go with the intructions on the can if they say different.


    dr del
  • 05-01-2009, 01:23 PM
    BPMIKE
    Re: Quick Mite Question
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dr del View Post
    Hi,

    What do the instructions on the can say? And what kind of substrate are you using?

    I think the normal practice is the re-treat in 30 days to make sure you kill any of them that hatch in the meantime ( it doesn't kill the eggs it just kills anything that hatches after treatment thanks to the residual effect ) but go with the intructions on the can if they say different.


    dr del

    I am using paper towel as substrate.I treated at about 3pm yesterday I just checked and seen a mite crawling on the Albino. Can the mites be seen with the eye? I am wondering if these are mites?
    Thank You! Mike.
  • 05-01-2009, 02:32 PM
    Kaorte
    Re: Quick Mite Question
    You can see them, they look like tiny black dots crawling around.

    The pam just kills the eggs though, it doesn't kill the mites themselves. Pam is recommended because after 30 days, new mites will hatch no matter how fast you kill them or even if you think you "got em all".

    If you still have mites on your snakes, You can try soaking them or wiping them down with a damp paper towel to try and get some of them off.
  • 05-01-2009, 03:12 PM
    BPMIKE
    Re: Quick Mite Question
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kaorte View Post
    You can see them, they look like tiny black dots crawling around.

    The pam just kills the eggs though, it doesn't kill the mites themselves. Pam is recommended because after 30 days, new mites will hatch no matter how fast you kill them or even if you think you "got em all".

    If you still have mites on your snakes, You can try soaking them or wiping them down with a damp paper towel to try and get some of them off.

    I called a few pet stores to find reptile releif or another product I couldn't find any. Two people told me I could rub the BPs with mineral oil and that would kill the mites.Has anyone done or heard of this?
    Thank You Mike.
  • 05-01-2009, 03:17 PM
    Pandora
    Re: Quick Mite Question
    To get rid of the mites on the actual snake, soak them in water with a drop of mild soap; which will suffocate the mites
    You should see them build up on the sides of the tub like little pepper flakes in water

    Grab something called 'Mite Off' by Zoo Med and spray the snake down with that. The mites should be gone within 24 hours

    Use PAM to kill mite eggs and prevent any future outbreaks

    good luck!
  • 05-01-2009, 04:04 PM
    BPMIKE
    Re: Quick Mite Question
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Pandora View Post
    To get rid of the mites on the actual snake, soak them in water with a drop of mild soap; which will suffocate the mites
    You should see them build up on the sides of the tub like little pepper flakes in water

    Grab something called 'Mite Off' by Zoo Med and spray the snake down with that. The mites should be gone within 24 hours

    Use PAM to kill mite eggs and prevent any future outbreaks

    good luck!

    I did what you said with the soap the Albino is all the way under the water even his head. Is this okay?
    Thanks Mike.
  • 05-01-2009, 04:05 PM
    kc261
    Re: Quick Mite Question
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kaorte View Post
    The pam just kills the eggs though, it doesn't kill the mites themselves. Pam is recommended because after 30 days, new mites will hatch no matter how fast you kill them or even if you think you "got em all".

    I believe this is wrong. PAM (Provent-a-mite) kills live mites, not eggs, just like any other mite product. The difference with PAM is that it leaves an active residue which will kill newly hatching mites as soon as they leave their egg, while most mite remedies only kill mites at the moment they are used.
  • 05-01-2009, 04:11 PM
    Pandora
    Re: Quick Mite Question
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BPMIKE View Post
    I did what you said with the soap the Albino is all the way under the water even his head. Is this okay?
    Thanks Mike.

    EEEEK!!
    NO, not at all
    you just want enough water to cover half; maybe 3/4 at most of his body in height
    And only one drop of MILD soap
  • 05-01-2009, 04:21 PM
    BPMIKE
    Re: Quick Mite Question
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Pandora View Post
    EEEEK!!
    NO, not at all
    you just want enough water to cover half; maybe 3/4 at most of his body in height
    And only one drop of MILD soap

    he is putting his head under by himself. There is not to much water in it.
    Thank You Mike.
  • 05-01-2009, 04:53 PM
    PghBall
    Re: Quick Mite Question
    I had mites on my first Ball (came from Petco) and I just soaked him in water with some iodine (heard it helps with any problems arising from the bites from the mites themselves). I would soak the snake in water roughly 3/4 high on his body. I then dried him off and used a little vegetable oil to help suffocate the remaining mites. It took about 3 soaks to get rid of all of them. I also sprayed down his entire 20 gallon aquarium with PAM after taking out all of the aspin etc. Also I put his log, hide, ceramic water dish, etc (don't put anything plastic in use discretion) in the oven @200 degrees for about an hour to kill any eggs/mites that may have been on them. I have been mite free since October when I first discovered them.
  • 05-01-2009, 05:16 PM
    psycho
    Re: Quick Mite Question
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BPMIKE View Post
    I am using paper towel as substrate.I treated at about 3pm yesterday I just checked and seen a mite crawling on the Albino. Can the mites be seen with the eye? I am wondering if these are mites?
    Thank You! Mike.

    Those are defenitely mites...mites can be found around the eye socket, in the labial pits, and in the fold of the skin on the bottom jaw of the snake.

    Try keeping them in there own cages....keep them in quarantine for 2 months or more as needed...this process is going to help you spot and eliminate mites...only use paper towels or newspaper as substrate, a hide box, and a water bowl big enough so your snake could fit in it so it can drown mites by laying in the water bowl...

    Put your snake in a tub of water (not full) at least once a week for 30 minutes...

    Try to buy "Provent A Mite" or "mite Off" if you see no improvement or if you want to hurry up the process... hopes this helps
  • 05-03-2009, 10:36 AM
    adamsmasher
    Re: Quick Mite Question
    awesome thread, I'm dealing with mites as well, well I think. I don't want to :hijackd: the thread but this seems the perfect context to ask this question. Last weekend while holding one of my snakes outside my wife noticed very tiny white critters crawling on his head. Needless to say I ordered PAM right away and it just got here so I'm treating all tubs as I give the snakes their soaks. Just wondering what these white things are since mites are black. Sorry don't mean to ramrod this thread.
  • 05-03-2009, 12:00 PM
    BPMIKE
    Re: Quick Mite Question
    Okay they have all been soaked,sprayed with jurasamite and their tubs cleaned and sprayed with Pam.Update to come later. Thanks to everyone who replied!
    Mike.
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