Have had three BP's living together

So is it safe to house BP's together, I've had the same three snakes together for 2 years since they were baby's 1 female at 1100 grams and 2 males at 500 grams two are the same age but one of the males is 6 months older then my female but not up to weight like she is. Are they stressed cause i wouldn't think they are both males are now producing sperm plugs

well they may stress out and you'll have the possibility of male domination and fighting over the right to breed. i only house bp's together for breeding only.

They need to be housed seperately.

One of the males was producing since last week so i rubbed his sperm on the females back and now the other male is producing so will battleing of males be coming should i remove one

Seriously?

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Originally Posted by llovelace

They need to be housed seperately.

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why is that cause right now i have two 200 gram females together and i love it cause every week they eat there dominating each other to be the biggiest, cause i had problems with my female albino to eat every week but since putting another female with her which was slightly bigger she has eatn every week since and is now bigger! So is it really that bad!

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Originally Posted by elevatethis

Seriously?

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Seriously WHAT

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Originally Posted by B@LLZ4LIFE

One of the males was producing since last week so i rubbed his sperm on the females back and now the other male is producing so will battleing of males be coming should i remove one

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As I stated before they each need to be in their own enclosures, the only time you would put two of them together, is for breeding purposes only.

Yes they are likely going to be (or are) stressed, and yes they should be housed separately.

Can you house them together, that's entirely your choice but you asked for opinions, and I daresay, that the opinion of most of the membership here will be to advise you to house them individually.

Domination means there's a winner and a loser. The loser will be stressed. Stressed leads to a weakened immune system, which leads to illness, which leads to both being sick because they are sharing everything (hides, water dishes, etc) which leads to double the vet bill, etc - which can all be avoided by housing them individually. Is it REALLY worth it? And do you really in the end, care what advice you're being given and take it?

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Originally Posted by llovelace

As I stated before they each need to be in their own enclosures, the only time you would put two of them together, is for breeding purposes only.

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Now are you saying just when i would put a female and male to breed together so can i house females together until breeding time

Nope

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Originally Posted by b@llz4life

now are you saying just when i would put a female and male to breed together so can i house females together until breeding time

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Originally Posted by rabernet

Yes they are likely going to be (or are) stressed, and yes they should be housed separately.

Can you house them together, that's entirely your choice but you asked for opinions, and I daresay, that the opinion of most of the membership here will be to advise you to house them individually.

Domination means there's a winner and a loser. The loser will be stressed. Stressed leads to a weakened immune system, which leads to illness, which leads to both being sick because they are sharing everything (hides, water dishes, etc) which leads to double the vet bill, etc - which can all be avoided by housing them individually. Is it REALLY worth it?

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Gotcha Yeah

Thanks all for the help i guess i will start seperating them all

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Originally Posted by B@LLZ4LIFE

Now are you saying just when i would put a female and male to breed together so can i house females together until breeding time

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I think it's time that you invest in a rack system, there are ones in the DIY section, and they are pretty inexpensive to build :)

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Originally Posted by B@LLZ4LIFE

Now are you saying just when i would put a female and male to breed together so can i house females together until breeding time

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No, she's saying that all your snakes, regardless of sex, need to be housed in separate enclosures.

Its whats safer for the animals, and for yourself. If one animal is sick, they all get sick. If they're seperated, and one gets sick, you can keep it away from your other animals to avoid further infections.

Listen to the people on this board, we know what were talking about most the time, and if not, we don't hesitate to recommend a vet visit.

I hope some of us didn't come off too strong and make you mad, we're very passionate about these animals, and just want what's best.

Trevor

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Originally Posted by B@LLZ4LIFE

Thanks all for the help i guess i will start seperating them all

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Originally Posted by 2kdime

Its whats safer for the animals, and for yourself. If one animal is sick, they all get sick. If they're seperated, and one gets sick, you can keep it away from your other animals to avoid further infections.

Listen to the people on this board, we know what were talking about most the time, and if not, we don't hesitate to recommend a vet visit.

I hope some of us didn't come off too strong and make you mad, we're very passionate about these animals, and just want what's best.

Trevor

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No i completely understand and i wana take care of these BP's as best as they should be i love snakes:cool:

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Originally Posted by llovelace

I think it's time that you invest in a rack system, there are ones in the DIY section, and they are pretty inexpensive to build :)

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O trust me ive been working on getting all the stuff for a rack i guess just now curious on what kinda wood should i use to build the rack out of

Thank god we got through this one without having to see "the picture" again.

Once you get a rack built, you'll love it. When do we get to see pics of the snakes? We love pics.
Seperating them, you'll probably see more weight put on per feeding. Any stress burns calories, and you'd rather have those calories going to grow snake.

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Originally Posted by B@LLZ4LIFE

O trust me ive been working on getting all the stuff for a rack i guess just now curious on what kinda wood should i use to build the rack out of

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Most people use melamine shelving because it has pre-finished surfaces.

Ideally they would have been in seperate enclosures from the get go, but I'm glad they are healthy so far. Seperating them now is definitely a must since males that have reached breeding age and been with a female will stop feeding and only think of breeding until they are seperated and placed in an enclosure that is completely clean of the scent of females. Some males are hard to get back on feed even after being seperated from a female for weeks. I just had to move one of mine to the other side of the house. He can't seem to get enough of the ladies.

They were probably ok till now because the female wasn't of breeding age yet. I've heard of males fighting over a female and then refusing to eat because he knew he was the "loser".

Here's a picture of a rack I built, really simple, you can find the shelving from any big time store like Lowes. It has flexwatt under the tubs to keep them warm, you have to buy that online for around $15 with shipping. (it was still in progress in this picture, my snakes obviously have hides and water dishes not pictured) Since your snakes are adults you would need bigger tubs.
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...a/Isis/010.jpg

Here is an excellent post for a DIY rack: http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showthread.php?t=79217 . I built a rack almost exactly like the one in the post, and it works great. It only cost around $200 to build with heat (not including a thermostat), and holds 11 tubs. I did include a back on my rack.