Chemtrails

Does anyone believe this is true?

Basically it is supposably done the most in the United States.

It's the government releasing chemicals by way of airplane over the nation to control population.

How is this done?

They are supposed to be chemicals that create cancer and other diseases over time.

Read this - http://educate-yourself.org/ct/

eeeeek...never heard of this. :O

Ohhhh crap! I can't find my aluminum-foil helmet...I know I put it down around here somewhere! I do have my goggles on, though...that keep me from being hypnotized by the government through my computer screen!

Ahhh...there it is...right under the pile of papers that prove the moon landings were faked and my actual authentic portrait painting of a space alien! :yes: I need to get that puppy framed!

Chemtrails.... ~sigh~ ...I'll have to cover a gasmask in foil so it matches my helmet. The things we go through as slaves to fashion!

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Originally Posted by JLC

Ohhhh crap! I can't find my aluminum-foil helmet...I know I put it down around here somewhere! I do have my goggles on, though...that keep me from being hypnotized by the government through my computer screen!

Ahhh...there it is...right under the pile of papers that prove the moon landings were faked and my actual authentic portrait painting of a space alien! :yes: I need to get that puppy framed!

Chemtrails.... ~sigh~ ...I'll have to cover a gasmask in foil so it matches my helmet. The things we go through as slaves to fashion!

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:rofl::rofl::rofl:.This kinda crap is crazy.O my i just saw Elvis float by my window LMAO

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Originally Posted by JLC

Ohhhh crap! I can't find my aluminum-foil helmet...I know I put it down around here somewhere! I do have my goggles on, though...that keep me from being hypnotized by the government through my computer screen!

Ahhh...there it is...right under the pile of papers that prove the moon landings were faked and my actual authentic portrait painting of a space alien! :yes: I need to get that puppy framed!

Chemtrails.... ~sigh~ ...I'll have to cover a gasmask in foil so it matches my helmet. The things we go through as slaves to fashion!

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Wanna borrow my hazmat suit? :D

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Originally Posted by Blizzarddude

Wanna borrow my hazmat suit? :D

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Thanks...but no...those make me look fat! :O

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YouTube - Dumb and Dumber - We Landed on the Moon!
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Are these the same people who caused the recent economic problems to convince the illegal immigrants to go back home because there's no work in the US anymore?

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Originally Posted by Blizzarddude

Wanna borrow my hazmat suit? :D

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Originally Posted by JLC

Thanks...but no...those make me look fat! :O

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I think it they make women look sexy :rolleyes:

i thought the chem trail planes were for weather control experimentation, possible prevention and/or treatment of global climate conditions....

don't know where the info is now, it's been several years since i read the study...

To fix my car's front grill I use aluminum tape.. so people think I put foil on it..
I tell them its to keep the aliens from reading my car's mind!!!
tee heee

I like those "autopsies" on the aliens.. where is ILM when you need em for those special effects.
Carol

http://www.anomalies-unlimited.com/Chemtrail_101.html

just a random link, no idea how credible or acurate this article might be...

Instead of making jokes about it why not add something credible to the thread.

I'm not saying I am believing this but more of just throwing it out there to see what others think.

I heard about it just last night.

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Originally Posted by N4S

Instead of making jokes about it why not add something credible to the thread.

I'm not saying I am believing this but more of just throwing it out there to see what others think.

I heard about it just last night.

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check out that link.... :P

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Originally Posted by N4S

Instead of making jokes about it why not add something credible to the thread.

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You're no fun. Fine, here's some stuff to think about that debunks the chemtrails conspiracy theory.

The US is not yet at peak population to maximize production, we would easily need another 100-200 million people for that.

Just about all countries in Europe are experiencing negative population growth from the average couple having 2 kids or less and very little immigration.

Africa is already screwed with problems other than cancer, no need to waste money adding fuel to an already white-hot fire.

India is the prime target for population control this decade and the next. Central and South America would be the prime targets of the future. Somehow the theories proposed all focus on USA, China, and Europe.

Any carcinogens released into the atmosphere would be detectable, and there are plenty of well-equipped scientifically and ecologically minded groups and individuals who would have caught on. Unfortunately for the chemtrails theory, the only evidence people have are pictures of clouds and airplane contrails.

If some shadow group really wanted to perform population control with atmospherically distributed carcinogens, they're doing it all wrong.

A number of the pictures show these "strange clouds/contrails" in unpopulated areas, not exactly prime targets.

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Originally Posted by mainbutter

A number of the pictures show these "strange clouds/contrails" in unpopulated areas, not exactly prime targets.

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i'm telling you, i saw this as a study over 15 years ago. it was about weather alteration, not population control. the idea was cloud cover can be used to cool the surface of certain areas, effectively changing the weather to other areas (a single butterfly butterfly butterfly....).

ie, cloud cover over a mall parking lot means that much less radiant heat. the study proposed that not only could they alter climate, but they could increase the probability of rain in time of drought.

weird, but they were legit experiments, and did occur.

If they are releasing chemicals for mind control, they aren't worth the time and effort with the way things are going!

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Originally Posted by Ben Biscy

i thought the chem trail planes were for weather control experimentation, possible prevention and/or treatment of global climate conditions....

don't know where the info is now, it's been several years since i read the study...

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Same here. Funny how this was instantly linked to aliens and foil hats though haha.

This (chemtrailing) was actually admitted to by Germany. I think America has had a few officials speak out, but again this was quite some time ago.

Edit: Also, it was on Cspan where i saw them mentioning using this for weather/climate control experimentation

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Originally Posted by N4S

Instead of making jokes about it why not add something credible to the thread.

I'm not saying I am believing this but more of just throwing it out there to see what others think.

I heard about it just last night.

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Well because crap like this only shows how its easy to get rumors started.The majority of people freak out when ever things are posted or on the news.So basicly its funny :rofl::rofl:

I have heard about it, and was actually surprised to see this thread.

For many years I believed that it was true. I mean I would see the jets and planes fly by, leaving this thick cloud behind them.

It is supposed to dissapear within minutes, but the chem trails stay up for a long time.

At my dads house (Northern Cali) I have noticed A LOT more of them....

...but who knows!

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Originally Posted by littleindiangirl

If they are releasing chemicals for mind control, they aren't worth the time and effort with the way things are going!

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Mind control?

That's a lil too far.

They need to put acid hit vapors in the air then. I will be ok with that. ;)

I have read about them, because I see a ton of them out to the south west of me, over my parents' and brothers' houses, since I moved to Woodridge. I don't have any clue about what they are, but I doubt it is anything good since the official explanations vary from ice particles to inert chemicals being released for various purposes. I wish the government would just officially acknowledge the trails and explain what they are. I know some people in Joliet who don't like the unexplained vapors being released over their families every day, which I don't see as an over reaction or as being irrational paranoia.

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Originally Posted by PythonWallace

I have read about them, because I see a ton of them out to the south west of me, over my parents' and brothers' houses, since I moved to Woodridge. I don't have any clue about what they are, but I doubt it is anything good since the official explanations vary from ice particles to inert chemicals being released for various purposes. I wish the government would just officially acknowledge the trails and explain what they are. I know some people in Joliet who don't like the unexplained vapors being released over their families every day, which I don't see as an over reaction or as being irrational paranoia.

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The stuff you are seeing is they are dumping the excess fuel before they land.

I DO love a good conspiracy theory in the morning! :P

They're coming to take me away!!!!!

Large conspiracies like this just don't exist. Simply because of the fact that they are large! The bigger a conspiracy gets the more complicated it gets and the more likely something would get leaked.

The "McDonald's puts chemicals in their food to make you addicted to it" conpsiracy theory than this.

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Originally Posted by joepythons

The stuff you are seeing is they are dumping the excess fuel before they land.

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Oh, that's much better.

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Maybe they're just spraying for mosquitoes? I remember that was the explanation for what was happening when I was a little kid and I wondered why the planes were so high up

Ok so since coming home I bothered going to the site. Oh wow! What a load of absolute crap. I think it's a joke honestly.

People do seriously believe it. I personally think it's a load of bunk. IF planes did release some sort of chemical way up at the altitudes, it would never be predictable as to where it would land. Why stripe a tiny(compared to the surounding area of sky) when you can't say it'll fall over a town, or get blown 100 miles away to over a lake or the ocean?
Conspiracy theorists abound.

conspiracies? lol
sorta like 2012 and all the "coffins" in ga issued by fema for a genocide of american people.
go google/youtube it lol
crazyyyy.

Well, they seem to just be making everything up. At least a respectable conspiracy has real data. It's fun to watch people twist real data into things you never thought possible. My favorite is "Spacehip Moon.'" :)

Here they are just saying stuff using no actual data to attempt to back them up. The kicker is the "Sylphs." When you start to throw in stuff straight out of fantasy, not Scifi, your theory kinda gets washed away immediately.

I'm a psychic and I have bad news, your all going to die(adventually).I have a premonition that it's not going to be from chemtrails LOL. This is just as bad as the hysatria like morgellons. Mass hystarias are quite common it's just the ones with really way out ideas that stand out;)

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Originally Posted by rebeccabecca

I'm a psychic and I have bad news, your all going to die(adventually).I have a premonition that it's not going to be from chemtrails LOL. This is just as bad as the hysatria like morgellons. Mass hystarias are quite common it's just the ones with really way out ideas that stand out;)

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Sure now you really scared me :weirdface:weirdface :rofl::rofl:

I don't generally buy conspiracy theories. I have enough to worry about in my life. I dunno though; if they're out for mind-control, all they need to do is look to the music industry; people are already somehow mentally controlled by it.. because, look at the horrific talentless crappy cds that people are buying!

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Originally Posted by joepythons

The stuff you are seeing is they are dumping the excess fuel before they land.

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That is almost just as bad as any other chemical I could think of dumping over populated areas. I wonder why they all start dumping extra fuel on their ways up. If they know that far in advance that they will need to dump fuel, maybe they shouldn't fill up so much, being that oil prices are so high. I hope it's unleaded.

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Originally Posted by MarkS

Maybe they're just spraying for mosquitoes? I remember that was the explanation for what was happening when I was a little kid and I wondered why the planes were so high up

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They give a ton of explanations for what the stuff is. In Cook County they drive trucks through the neighborhoods spraying for mosquitoes. They say to move or cover your cars because the spray can eat paint. It's always fun when we are grilling outside and they drive by spraying that crap. If it can eat the enamel paint off cars, what's it doing to our lungs and steaks?

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Originally Posted by wolfy-hound

People do seriously believe it. I personally think it's a load of bunk. IF planes did release some sort of chemical way up at the altitudes, it would never be predictable as to where it would land. Why stripe a tiny(compared to the surounding area of sky) when you can't say it'll fall over a town, or get blown 100 miles away to over a lake or the ocean?
Conspiracy theorists abound.

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They most definitely are releasing chemicals. The altitudes I've seen were not that high. If you don't think they are releasing chem trails en mass, (whatever the chemicals may be), I can get some pictures this week showing a dozen small planes in one image, all releasing trails, and some of them very low and releasing trails on their ways up.

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Originally Posted by Ralphieeeee

conspiracies? lol
sorta like 2012 and all the "coffins" in ga issued by fema for a genocide of american people.
go google/youtube it lol
crazyyyy.

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I never heard about that. I heard something about FEMA building fenced in "camps" all over the U.S. So far, they supposedly have enough room in them for 50 million people, but I can't find the official reasons. Does anyone know anything about them?

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Originally Posted by Ginevive

I don't generally buy conspiracy theories. I have enough to worry about in my life. I dunno though; if they're out for mind-control, all they need to do is look to the music industry; people are already somehow mentally controlled by it.. because, look at the horrific talentless crappy cds that people are buying!

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Don't forget movies. There was a rapper last week who was driving a rented SUV and almost hit a pedestrian at a red light in a crosswalk. The guy yelled at him and hit the hood of the rented car, so the rapper got out and beat him to death, then ran him over, crushing his spine, when an off duty cop ran over and tried to arrest him. He and his attorney are using the defense that the movie "Crash" shows that in a city like L.A., where things are overpopulated and chaotic, chance violent occurrences happen, and that if they met under different circumstances they would have probably become friends. I love lawyers. :rolleye2:

No, planes are flying higher than they ever have before, which is why we didn't have the "chemtrails" before. Since they are flying higher, the atmosphere is different, less wind/movement/different levels of gases which causes the plane's exhaust to stay in the air longer. I don't believe all the conspiracy theories. IMO :D

you know, they do have ways of knowing where the chems would fall... i mean, what the hell is meteorolog, right?

it's not the highest planes that create the clouds, and if you'd look into it, you'll find that ice trails last only a few minutes, not HOURS or DAYS.... they also don't spread out into really whacky cloud formations that sit and hover and blot out the sun..... and why the grid formations? o.0

there's a place for paranoia in everyone. a thousand years ago it had a different name.... i think they called it primal instincts?

:P

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No, planes are flying higher than they ever have before, which is why we didn't have the "chemtrails" before. Since they are flying higher, the atmosphere is different, less wind/movement/different levels of gases which causes the plane's exhaust to stay in the air longer. I don't believe all the conspiracy theories. IMO :D

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Thanks for settling the controversy. Even the government doesn't claim that the trails are just exhaust. Plus, the planes that release the trails aren't the ones flying at 30,000 to 50,000 ft. They are all flying at low altitudes. I was also under the impression that wind speed increases at higher altitudes. I could be wrong, but it's irrevelant, either way.

For all the people who say they don't believe any conspiracy theories, and to get out the foil hats, do you all think we invaded Iraq because they had WMDs? If not, when that was the official story, any other theory or information to the contrary was one of those tin foil hat conspiracy theories. What about all the "conspiracy theories" that have become public knowledge after the fact? Or do you all not believe the new or declassified information, believing the present day mass media is just in on perpetuating the old foil hat conspiracy theories?

lol...

it is sad, really; for instance.... watch the footage of the twin towers falling, and slow it down to 2fps.

you will see individual explosions at every level of the building, with frag and shrapnel flying outward.

this doens't happen in a collapse, it happens in a proffesionally controlled demolition contract.

and if you REALLY want to get freaked out, look up who owned the "maintenance crew" that performed work with drill, wire, and heavy machinery the week before the incident....


paranoia keeps people alive. ;)

I am a pilot and have been working in the airline industry, and fueling jets and small planes, for about thirty years now. This is about the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. But I did have a good laugh, thanks.

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it is sad, really; for instance.... watch the footage of the twin towers falling, and slow it down to 2fps.

you will see individual explosions at every level of the building, with frag and shrapnel flying outward.

this doens't happen in a collapse, it happens in a proffesionally controlled demolition contract.

and if you REALLY want to get freaked out, look up who owned the "maintenance crew" that performed work with drill, wire, and heavy machinery the week before the incident....


paranoia keeps people alive. ;)

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This, on the other hand, is hard to dispute.

How can people deny something they can see everyday just by looking up beats me. If you Google or YouTube or whatever there is a ton of information on Chemtrails.

YouTube - Killer Chemtrails: The Shocking Truth

Clouds form at the condensation level. That is, warm moist air rises through the atmosphere, where the air is about two degrees colder for each thousand feet you go up. Once the warm moist air is cooled by this rising action it cannot hold the water vapor as a gas, and it becomes liquid. When a jet blasts through the upper atmosphere it warms the air in a trail behind it (because it's burning jet fuel). Voila, instant cloud. They are called contrails and they are made of water.

At the Chicago air and water shows the con trails only last seconds before dissipating.

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Originally Posted by Jenn

Clouds form at the condensation level. That is, warm moist air rises through the atmosphere, where the air is about two degrees colder for each thousand feet you go up. Once the warm moist air is cooled by this rising action it cannot hold the water vapor as a gas, and it becomes liquid. When a jet blasts through the upper atmosphere it warms the air in a trail behind it (because it's burning jet fuel). Voila, instant cloud. They are called contrails and they are made of water.

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I know what contrails are but you should research chemtrails. Watch the videos and do some research.

YouTube - Local news station confirms barium in chemtrails

I am absolutely dumb founded.... here I thought science and logic we're the norm.

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Originally Posted by PythonWallace

Thanks for settling the controversy. Even the government doesn't claim that the trails are just exhaust. Plus, the planes that release the trails aren't the ones flying at 30,000 to 50,000 ft. They are all flying at low altitudes. I was also under the impression that wind speed increases at higher altitudes. I could be wrong, but it's irrevelant, either way.

For all the people who say they don't believe any conspiracy theories, and to get out the foil hats, do you all think we invaded Iraq because they had WMDs? If not, when that was the official story, any other theory or information to the contrary was one of those tin foil hat conspiracy theories. What about all the "conspiracy theories" that have become public knowledge after the fact? Or do you all not believe the new or declassified information, believing the present day mass media is just in on perpetuating the old foil hat conspiracy theories?

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Believing the Bush administration lied about the WMD's is not the same as calling solid science a lie and STILL believing a radical paranoia theory.

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Originally Posted by Serpents_Den

How can people deny something they can see everyday just by looking up beats me. If you Google or YouTube or whatever there is a ton of information on Chemtrails.

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I don't believe anyone is denying the vapor trails from airplanes at high alititudes, however, I will never believe the theory that it is a massive effort of all the governments attempting to release chemicals and mind control drugs on the population.

You know, if you want to believe the conspiracy theories, despite it being only proved by non-facts, I can't help you there. Go buy a few water4gas products, and drive your car on tap water.
*bowing out*