Super Cinnamon

What are the chances of getting a super cinnamon if i breed a cinnamon to a cinnamon??? or does that make a 100% het super cinnamon??? Im confused:confused::O:confused:

if you breed a cinny to a cinny, here are the probabilities for each egg:

25% chance at a normal
50% chance at a cinny
25% chance at a super cinny

Hope that helps.

Cinny x Cinny= 25% super cinny, 50% cinny, 25% normal.

How can you figure that out.... is a cinnamon a codom or dom or ressesive??? and how does it all work???? Now im more confused:rolleye2::omfg:

Go refresh on your 9th grade biology:

http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...ad.php?t=52847

It's not hard stuff to learn

And cinny is a called a codom morph.

and the sad thing is i learned this 2 years ago... im in 11th grade, but i didnt listen in class now i wished i had!!!!

Think of Cinnys like Hets....they are Het Super Cinny....just like Yellow Bellies are Het Ivory

and pastels are het super pastels and mojaves, butters, and lesser are het BEL???

and how would you describe dominates and ressiseves???

A cinnamon IS a het super cinnamon ;) Super just means being homozygous for that trait. Heterzygous means having two different alleles for the same trait.

What would you get if you breed a bumblebee to a cinnamon???

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Originally Posted by tjones

What would you get if you breed a bumblebee to a cinnamon???

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http://www.geneticswizard.com/f_star...ics_wizard.asp

12.5% WT
12.5% Het. Cinny,
12.5% Het. Pastel,
12.5% Het. Pastel, Het. Cinny,
12.5% Het. Spider,
12.5% Het. Spider, Het. Cinny,
12.5% Het. Spider, Het. Pastel,
12.5% Het. Spider, Het. Pastel, Het. Cinny

might understand better...

12.5% Normal
12.5% Cinny
12.5% Pastel
12.5% Pewter
12.5% Spider
12.5% Cinnnabee
12.5% Bubblebee
12.5% Pewter Bee

when i took biology last semester it was super easy because for the most part i applied it to bps. My teacher thought i was a freak but was happy cuz it worked :)
Ive never seen a pewter bee. I didnt know there was a pewter bee :P
Matt

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when i took biology last semester it was super easy because for the most part i applied it to bps. My teacher thought i was a freak but was happy cuz it worked :)
Ive never seen a pewter bee. I didnt know there was a pewter bee :P
Matt

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http://www.newenglandreptile.com/ner...ewter-bee.html

So if i take a bumble be and a cinny and breed them i will have a chance for all those different morphs, not the hets for those morphs????

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Originally Posted by tjones

and the sad thing is i learned this 2 years ago... im in 11th grade, but i didnt listen in class now i wished i had!!!!

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lol it's funny when that stuff comes back to bite you.

The stuff you learn in high school classes really DOES have real world applications!

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Originally Posted by tjones

So if i take a bumble be and a cinny and breed them i will have a chance for all those different morphs, not the hets for those morphs????

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bumble bee is a combination of the heterozygous form of the dominant spider mutation(spiders are weird in that so far no one has shown a living homozygous form that I know of.. some people suspect that the homozygous form is fatal even before hatching) and the heterozygous form of the co-dominant pastel mutation

pewter is a combination of the heterozygous form of the co-dom pastel mutation and the heterozygous form of the cinny mutation.

All those mutations express themselves visually(there are color and/or pattern changes you can see) in the heterozygous form

Many of the "morphs" on the list are some combo of those 3 genes(pastel, cinny, spider). You can't really call anything "het for bumblebee" since bumblebees are created by multiple mutations expressing themselves in the same snake.

HOWEVER, as it turns out, all of those morphs in the list, combo or not, express the heterozygous form of any of the 3 mutations that are present in the snake. Luckily since those each of those seperate mutations are either codominant or dominant, the heterozygous forms are all visually represented in any snake with the gene that causes each mutation.

This is because to get the homozygous/super form, you have to breed two snakes together that both express the mutation (in either the homozygous or heterozygous form)

If you luck out and hatch a pewter bee as noted before, it will be heterozygous for pastel, heterozygous for spider, and heterozygous for cinnamon. All 3 genes will affect the appearance of the snake.

Chances of what you will hatch out get complicated as soon as you start considering combos with 3 or more different mutations present.