Co-Dom or Recessive? (Hypothetical Question)

If you had a morph (Lets say a Z Morph) and you had a choice between a Z Pastel or a Z Het Hypo, which would you choose and why?

The Z morph is a great thing on its own, but....

Would you be more interested in the Co-dom aspect or the Recessive aspect of the project?

Which combos interest you more in general?

I guess it depends on what the two combos looked like.. If the Z Pastel looked like a Parrot with scales and the Z Hypo Looked like a faded Z then I'd go pastel and visa versa

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

I guess it depends on what the two combos looked like.. If the Z Pastel looked like a Parrot with scales and the Z Hypo Looked like a faded Z then I'd go pastel and visa versa

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Let us assume that both are super hot morphs in their own right :)

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Originally Posted by LadyOhh

Let us assume that both are super hot morphs in their own right :)

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Ok then the recessive combo.. Thats an easy one.. No NORMAL OFFSPRING!

Both, of course. :D

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

Ok then the recessive combo.. Thats an easy one.. No NORMAL OFFSPRING!

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The problem is that it would be a HET Z... so yes, normal offspring :)

I'm a pastel combo kinda person if it were to come to looks alone. If you're taking into account pricing factors for a long term investment then I would do the recessive. In my utopian snake world I would have both :)

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Originally Posted by LadyOhh

The problem is that it would be a HET Z... so yes, normal offspring :)

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Oh true I was thinking it would be homo for the recessive trait.. that's a toss up.

If our list of assumptions defines the Z-morph animal as both male and co-dom, I would say the recessive. As far as morphs go, recessives hold their value better, and given the recessive parent is female, you can give yourself a great chance of proving out a super-recessive + z-morph combo within a generation through line breeding.

If the Z-morph were recessive, and the animal female, I'd do the exact opposite for the same reason.

To me it would come down to what the final or goal combination(s) look like like how does the superpastel affect it?

I would say not Hypo.....


Double Het Z Ghost would be way less satisfying than Pastel Het Z's

if the z is visual,and the hypo is visual,i would go that route,as everything will be a het,however,if its a het hypo,i would go to the pastel

I would be more interested in the recessive combo.

For me it depends on the whole project goal. If it was a male Z het hypo and I already had a homozygous hypo female to breed it to that's the way I would go. If I had another co-dom female I wanted to put into the mix, I would go with the co-dom. Personally I have no interest in making possible het hypos (or any recessive for that matter) so if I only had normal females to breed it to, I would stick with the co-dom. Thats just me.

-John

sorry for the silly question, but I´m brazilian and here the reptile sale is rare and very poor. I want to know where I can find the meaning of z- morph and this things. My balls I aqcired in 1997. now they are looking good, but since that year Nobody here could buy one legal one. so my balls are wild type. and the ball stuff/info here is zero.

thanks

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Originally Posted by ademar couto

sorry for the silly question, but I´m brazilian and here the reptile sale is rare and very poor. I want to know where I can find the meaning of z- morph and this things. My balls I aqcired in 1997. now they are looking good, but since that year Nobody here could buy one legal one. so my balls are wild type. and the ball stuff/info here is zero.

thanks

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Z morph was basically an (Insert name here) morph.

There is no such thing as a Z Morph in Ball Pythons.

It was meant to be hypothetical.

thanks lady. sorry for my ignorance.

the only thing I have done with balls here is medicate and reproduce. And people here think I´m a genius for doing this.

Now I keep 12 wild boys and ladies, 5 eggs now opening, but no chance of having a morph.

If one of you guys visit my country, please, bring me an enchi or spider ball(or both).

Voce fala português?

sim. moro no brasil. why? pq? teu endereço esta como sul da california aqui...

Eu vivi em Brasil aproximadamente 10 anos há, e eu falto a língua e o país. Mas eu sou original dos Estados Unidos

vc tem msn? posso te mandar um email sobre balls? não quer vender aqui?????????????????????????

meu msn : ademarcouto@click21.com.br

ademarcouto@gmail.com

No pode vende la...

No tem CITES

buaaaaaaawwwwwwwwHhhhhHHHH!
:blownose:

Ahem,

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Originally Posted by ademar couto

vc tem msn? posso te mandar um email sobre balls? não quer vender aqui?????????????????????????

meu msn : ademarcouto@click21.com.br

ademarcouto@gmail.com

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Originally Posted by Site T.O.S.

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dr del

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Ahem

dr del

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He was asking if we could discuss ball pythons..

and if I sold over there

And I told him I couldn't because I don't have CITES.

Hi,

I got that bit. :)

I may have missunderstood this part though;

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Originally Posted by ademar couto

sorry for the silly question, but I´m brazilian and here the reptile sale is rare and very poor. I want to know where I can find the meaning of z- morph and this things. My balls I aqcired in 1997. now they are looking good, but since that year Nobody here could buy one legal one. so my balls are wild type. and the ball stuff/info here is zero.

thanks

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As I took that to mean they were illegal to buy or sell over there - have I got the wrong end of the stick again?


dr del

my balls were legally selled in 1997. with cites and docs. ok?

no more selling is permited in brazil. I had the ultimate chance.

don´t you need cites when selling inside usa?

Nós não precisamos o CITES nos Estados Unidos de vender/produzimo-los