Not a good enclosure!

I don't think that this tank looks very comfortable to me.



https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...skns_thumb.jpg

Why?

You don't like carpet with your own fecal matter on it? And how about extremely dry air? My favorite :)

Who's enclosure is this?

How about bringing the Sun right above and into your living room.

Eek, no wonder the bp is hiding! The light is basically glaring right down upon his home, which has no other hiding areas or plants...who on earth set this up???

Well Im damn proud to say it isn't mine. I had to go to this guy's house to pick up a couch for a friend. My friend told him I was into snakes and he got all gung ho about his "rad" bp. As soon as I saw the enclosure I let in to him a started telling him everything he was doing wrong( this made him a little angry.) I told him I'd take it off his hands since he obviously didn't like it very much or have time to take care of it, but he refused and called me stupid ( in some different words.) So I snuck a pic with my phone so I could at least show every one.

There's also a uth there with no stat. I told him I had an extra he could have but he didn't want "my hand outs."

Is there at least a water bowl in there? I can't tell because of the rediculous brightness of that lamp.

How did you go about telling him he was doing it wrong? I don't know, maybe you came across as a jerk and put him into defense mode. You should try approaching him again, or maybe email him a link to the caresheet here.

It looks a lot like a friend of mines cage set up. It's not but very similar.

I know what you are going through...
I tried to help her with her set up. Was very diplomatic. She did end up putting a second hide in there but that's it. She didn't take any of my other advice. No thermometer, a big ol' light in the middle like that. Even has the top held down with bricks for an adult ball.

I've tried twice and it did nothing but get her to be defensive and not talk about balls with me anymore. Even though tried to be very nice about it and not preachy. Sounds like this person is very similar. Don't know if you'll be able to change them. Good Luck if you try again.

It is always hard trying to help people who don't want to be helped. I am glad you tried though!

And some people wonder why they want to ban reptiles? I'm sorry to everyone, but it's animals like this that make me wish we could at least get some permits set up. Or maybe a licensing situation to carry ball pythons. One license for all the snakes, and a separate one for breeding. I wish they would just ban pet stores from carrying animals and let the breeders take care of it. Oh, wait, what would happen with all the tax money? It makes me sad :(

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And some people wonder why they want to ban reptiles? I'm sorry to everyone, but it's animals like this that make me wish we could at least get some permits set up. Or maybe a licensing situation to carry ball pythons. One license for all the snakes, and a separate one for breeding. I wish they would just ban pet stores from carrying animals and let the breeders take care of it. Oh, wait, what would happen with all the tax money? It makes me sad :(

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I don't really think poor reptile care is why people want to ban reptiles. I think it is the whole "letting them loose" or "big killer snakes" thing that gets to people.

There are tons of mistreated dogs and cats but those aren't going to be banned any time soon :/

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Originally Posted by Kaorte

I don't really think poor reptile care is why people want to ban reptiles. I think it is the whole "letting them loose" or "big killer snakes" thing that gets to people.

There are tons of mistreated dogs and cats but those aren't going to be banned any time soon :/

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I understand, but part of mistreating them is not being able to take care of them and turning them loose. Well, yeah, my statement is a little off, but I still think we should try to take hr669 and turn it into something different. Here we have to have a license to breed any dog, and I think mistreated pit bulls are a good example of what can happen. I think i was just putting what i think should happen. :oops:

I was really nice at first. I told him the snake would be happier with 2 smaller hides, a different light! and t-stat and some humidity( he didn't have a hygrometer at all and the top is just screen.) I offered to help him set it up. He said I didn't know anything about it, so I told him I read alot about them and I get on b-p.net at least once a day. I gave him the site and said any question he wanted to ask, the people on this site would answer it, and he could get better versed. Then he said he was gonna waste his time on the internet with a bunch of nerds (keep in mind he thought he was pretty cool), But I was getting angry so I said "Do what you want. It won't make any difference to you if it dies, or sits in there and suffers." Consequently we didn't buy his couch.

Alright, I fess up. Its my snake, love my husbandry, right? :rolleyes:

You could tell him about H.R. 669 and tell him that it passed and that he will get a big fine for keeping the snake :-) and ask him to take it off his hands so he doesnt get a fine. Give him like $20 for it and take it home and give it a proper home, just my opinion.

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You could tell him about H.R. 669 and tell him that it passed and that he will get a big fine for keeping the snake :-) and ask him to take it off his hands so he doesnt get a fine. Give him like $20 for it and take it home and give it a proper home, just my opinion.

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I'll give that a shot tomarrow if I can get ahold of him.

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I'll give that a shot tomarrow if I can get ahold of him.

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Comon man, its yours. You know it is, we know it is. Stop playin'.

Yeah def good luck with that I hope you pull it off I feel bad for that BP it does not deserve to be treated like that

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Comon man, its yours. You know it is, we know it is. Stop playin'.

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Mine never even got that bad when I got my first snake (which wasn't that long ago) but i just got done cleanin all my tubs so it's not mine.