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Should I be concerned?

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  • 04-12-2009, 07:05 AM
    llovelace
    Should I be concerned?
    When I got this asf I thought it was just a bite on her tail, now it looks like this

    http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u...il100_2213.jpg

    And when I was cleaning tanks she was nursing the pile, but she was kind of twitching, then all of a sudden she skyrocketed out of the pile, I mean it was like a back flip, well any way, she sort wedged herself by the hopper and was spazzing, could this have been a seizure?
  • 04-12-2009, 09:11 AM
    Mike Cavanaugh
    Re: Should I be concerned?
    feed her off when she is done nursing. It will get much worse, and she will likely get them on her body and head too.

    I only had one instance of tumors like the picture shows... That was from the first 3 rats I purchased. None of the descendants from that group ever developed any.

    I see you live in florida... I would venture to say you probably got them either directly or indirectly from the same guy I got the line I had with the tumors.... Being that none of the descendants showed any symptoms, I would venture to say it has something to do with the breeders husbandry or feed choice.
  • 04-12-2009, 09:21 AM
    llovelace
    Re: Should I be concerned?
    what if she drops another litter before the first ones weaned off?
  • 04-12-2009, 10:00 AM
    llovelace
    Re: Should I be concerned?
    I have 2 other females in the tank who delivered about a week ago, can I feed her off and let them care for her babies?

    Who did you get yours from? mine came from a gentleman in Okeechobee
  • 04-12-2009, 10:03 AM
    littleindiangirl
    Re: Should I be concerned?
    ASF's are all prone to tumors and warty growths, some more so than others. If she developes any more, you can put her down and replace her with one of her daughters.
  • 04-12-2009, 10:23 AM
    Bruce Whitehead
    Re: Should I be concerned?
    Guess I am neurotic that way. I just euthanize them and toss them.

    I never feed off a tumored rodent. But yes, I would concur, put her down. :(
  • 04-12-2009, 11:12 AM
    Beardedragon
    Re: Should I be concerned?
    The person you got them from might have been feeding them something high in Protein, which ive heard causes tumors. I cant back it up but if mike had the same problem that could be it.
  • 04-12-2009, 12:10 PM
    Mike Cavanaugh
    Re: Should I be concerned?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by llovelace View Post
    what if she drops another litter before the first ones weaned off?

    Just let the other moms take care of the kids. You may loose one or two, but that is ok... they will be recycled.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by llovelace View Post
    I have 2 other females in the tank who delivered about a week ago, can I feed her off and let them care for her babies?

    Who did you get yours from? mine came from a gentleman in Okeechobee

    Yes.

    A local shop that probably got them from the same guy. They look just like the ones I got too.


    Quote:

    Originally Posted by littleindiangirl View Post
    ASF's are all prone to tumors and warty growths, some more so than others.

    I have to respectfully disagree. I have literally produced THOUSANDS of ASF's directly related to that original group. Great grand kids from that group have already been retired from breeding.... and I have NEVER had another tumor growth. I have absolutely no scientific data to back it up but common sense would tell me it has to do with poor feed. (not suggesting poor feed is being used by the OP... suggesting it was used by the breeder)
  • 04-13-2009, 08:25 AM
    Lucas339
    Re: Should I be concerned?
    if she drops another litter, i know how you can get rid of them :) i always need fuzzys!!
  • 04-13-2009, 08:37 AM
    llovelace
    Re: Should I be concerned?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Lucas339 View Post
    if she drops another litter, i know how you can get rid of them :) i always need fuzzys!!

    You know I got you covered on pinkies :), how did those pinkies work out?
  • 04-13-2009, 04:45 PM
    Lucas339
    Re: Should I be concerned?
    i threw the ASF babies in b/c they were live. they were a bit big but they took them down!!
  • 04-13-2009, 05:44 PM
    littleindiangirl
    Re: Should I be concerned?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mike Cavanaugh View Post


    I have to respectfully disagree. I have literally produced THOUSANDS of ASF's directly related to that original group. Great grand kids from that group have already been retired from breeding.... and I have NEVER had another tumor growth. I have absolutely no scientific data to back it up but common sense would tell me it has to do with poor feed. (not suggesting poor feed is being used by the OP... suggesting it was used by the breeder)

    That's okay to disagree, if you'd ever like, I can give you some readings so you understand where I come from when I mention this in regards to tumors and carcinomas. ;)
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