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  • 04-03-2009, 09:54 PM
    Harley
    call me cheep but don't these seem a little expensive?
    I got my ball for free from a guy who could no longer care for him.

    I walked into the pet store today to look at some heat bulbs and curiosity got the better of me. I went over to the BP's and noticed that they had normals for sale for $350. That just seemed stupid expensive to me. They had ball python "starter Kits" that came with a baby ball a ten gallon tank and some substrate for $750:O:O

    When I got home I figured I would check on line to see what some people in my area were selling their Balls for. Here is what I found.

    http://edmonton.kijiji.ca/c-pets-oth...AdIdZ118066815

    If that snake is three feet long than his water dish must be massive (in the pictures.) not to mention the 77gallon tank. The poor snake must think he is going on some kind of epic adventure to get from one side to another.

    This is Canadian dollars BTW

    Is this normal? or am I just extremely lucky that I got such a wonderful pet for free?

    How much did you guys spend on your snake? (referring to normals here as I know other morphs can get pricey.)
  • 04-03-2009, 10:46 PM
    llovelace
    Re: call me cheep but don't these seem a little expensive?
    canadian $350 = US $284.5991, yeah that is wayyyyyy over priced!!
  • 04-03-2009, 10:47 PM
    littleindiangirl
    Re: call me cheep but don't these seem a little expensive?
    Nope, not for Canada. Different countries can expect different supply and demand.
  • 04-03-2009, 10:53 PM
    Jombolo
    Re: call me cheep but don't these seem a little expensive?
    the Charlotte, NC region, i've priced two places Petsmart $80 and a local shop $129. go figure
  • 04-03-2009, 11:04 PM
    Bruce Whitehead
    Re: call me cheep but don't these seem a little expensive?
    Did you get lucky?

    Yeah you did.

    You could have inherited a sick snake, and a whack of vet bills as well. Lots of people will not touch CL or Kijiji snakes unless they come from a breeder.

    Same with pet store snakes. Overpriced, minimal QT, and often poorly started.

    It is nice you got a good snake, but I see really shabbily cared for snakes being dumped online all the time by people that "did not have the time" etc to care for them, and provided them with improper husbandry.

    I had to put down a snake that I got online not that long ago. The previous keeper kept her at too high of temps long-term and the snake came with the equivalent of a brain injury as a result.

    As far as the pet store, yes that is over priced, but most people that are not into snakes would not know that, nor would they know they are being sold a bunch of stuff they do not need.

    The goal of pet stores is to sell product.... so they are not doing anything but their jobs in that case.

    Two months ago I got an 8 year old virgin normal female for free. The owner contacted me and said he could not care for her, and asked if I would take her. The snake is not only beautiful, but she eats like a horse, and is the sweetest tempered thing I have ever met.

    300.00$ - 450.00 is the going price still for proven females.

    40-60.0 for normal males, and 60-100.00 for female hatchlings, a female close to breeding weight but unproven is usually 250.00 - 300.00.

    My best adult female came for the whopping price of 50.0$ (an 8 year old virgin that laid 9 eggs last season), but I also have proven breeder females I have paid upwards of 450.00$ for.

    You will pay more for a snake (esp. a morph) in an area where there are not a lot of that type of snake. And being that in CAN we can only ship by airlines, that gets lots of people that will only buy locally (even though the shipping is only about 65.0$, as it used to be 125.00$ - most people do not realize that prices have actually gone down as they are shipped cargo now only).

    bruce

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Harley View Post
    I got my ball for free from a guy who could no longer care for him.

    I walked into the pet store today to look at some heat bulbs and curiosity got the better of me. I went over to the BP's and noticed that they had normals for sale for $350. That just seemed stupid expensive to me. They had ball python "starter Kits" that came with a baby ball a ten gallon tank and some substrate for $750:O:O

    When I got home I figured I would check on line to see what some people in my area were selling their Balls for. Here is what I found.

    http://edmonton.kijiji.ca/c-pets-oth...AdIdZ118066815

    If that snake is three feet long than his water dish must be massive (in the pictures.) not to mention the 77gallon tank. The poor snake must think he is going on some kind of epic adventure to get from one side to another.

    This is Canadian dollars BTW

    Is this normal? or am I just extremely lucky that I got such a wonderful pet for free?

    How much did you guys spend on your snake? (referring to normals here as I know other morphs can get pricey.)

  • 04-03-2009, 11:05 PM
    Crusader71
    Re: call me cheep but don't these seem a little expensive?
    Being a Canadian those prices are right some LPS sell Normal balls without tax for $500. Thats why when I see some of the Amercain prices I cry(soo jealous).
  • 04-03-2009, 11:05 PM
    mechnut450
    Re: call me cheep but don't these seem a little expensive?
    wow I didn't pay that much for my het axanthics .. I see normals going for 40-60 on craigslist and the local pet shope list them as 90 bucks.. Plus in delaware you must show ( proof) of a permit. which they are changing the regs I am being told ns it sucks cause my permit will be come void from what I here.
  • 04-03-2009, 11:10 PM
    Bruce Whitehead
    Re: call me cheep but don't these seem a little expensive?
    Addendum:

    That ad, the concern is making the money back on the enclosure, not on the snake.

    Kijiji regularly has normals "tout inclus" that are priced around 300.00 to 500.00.
  • 04-03-2009, 11:20 PM
    waltah!
    Re: call me cheep but don't these seem a little expensive?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Crusader71 View Post
    Being a Canadian those prices are right some LPS sell Normal balls without tax for $500. Thats why when I see some of the Amercain prices I cry(soo jealous).

    Yeah, but you guys get Tim Horton's so we'll call it even:D
  • 04-03-2009, 11:20 PM
    Mike Cavanaugh
    Re: call me cheep but don't these seem a little expensive?
    I need to visit canada with a few snakes in tow!
  • 04-03-2009, 11:38 PM
    littleindiangirl
    Re: call me cheep but don't these seem a little expensive?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by waltah! View Post
    Yeah, but you guys get Tim Horton's so we'll call it even:D

    We got timmy ho's too! That was my first job as a super over there. :P
  • 04-03-2009, 11:39 PM
    Harley
    Re: call me cheep but don't these seem a little expensive?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bruce Whitehead View Post
    Did you get lucky?

    Yeah you did.

    You could have inherited a sick snake, and a whack of vet bills as well. Lots of people will not touch CL or Kijiji snakes unless they come from a breeder.


    bruce


    Oh, I should have clarified. I did not get my Ball from online. The guy was a friend of a family member. He knew alot about snakes and the BP was healthy, he just didn't have the time for it. (He got a new job that required lots of traveling and had no one to care for the snake.)

    In regard to the ad, I see it as a $500 snake with a tank thrown in. (Seems logical). I guess I can see how some people would see it as a $500 tank with a snake thrown in. (seems kinda odd.)

    The lucky comment I made was just referring to the fact that I got my BP for free whereas some people have to spend $200+ for a normal.
  • 04-03-2009, 11:49 PM
    Bruce Whitehead
    Re: call me cheep but don't these seem a little expensive?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Harley View Post
    Oh, I should have clarified. I did not get my Ball from online. The guy was a friend of a family member. He knew alot about snakes and the BP was healthy, he just didn't have the time for it. (He got a new job that required lots of traveling and had no one to care for the snake.)

    In regard to the ad, I see it as a $500 snake with a tank thrown in. (Seems logical). I guess I can see how some people would see it as a $500 tank with a snake thrown in. (seems kinda odd.)

    The lucky comment I made was just referring to the fact that I got my BP for free whereas some people have to spend $200+ for a normal.

    It is sad, but people will argue about the price of a tank, and the snake become secondary. I say this having adopted (and in more than a few cases rescued) snakes that the owner haggled over the price of the enclosure but the snake was not a concern.

    The enclosure usually ends up on CList for around 20.0 - 40.0 bucks. You ever need HUGE tanks, let me know. I got a storage room full of them. I can barely give them away. :D

    And if it sounded harsh it was not meant to be.

    My first snake Ash, a sweet normal male was a newspaper adoption. Best 50.0$ I ever spent. He passed (too many years of bad husbandry to be fixed) but he taught me everything I ever needed to know about BPs and 45 snakes later he is still my best boy.

    Glad you got a good snake, and glad he got an attentive keeper.

    Nothing like a new snake. :)

    Bruce
  • 04-03-2009, 11:52 PM
    Bruce Whitehead
    Re: call me cheep but don't these seem a little expensive?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by littleindiangirl View Post
    We got timmy ho's too! That was my first job as a super over there. :P

    In QUE we have more Dunkin' Donuts then THC's (yes, Tim Horton's Coffee has that acronym). We'll take your Tim's if you guys take back all that D Donut's... :D

    I loves me some church basement coffee. Gotta have my Timmie's.

    Bruce
  • 04-03-2009, 11:55 PM
    littleindiangirl
    Re: call me cheep but don't these seem a little expensive?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bruce Whitehead View Post
    In QUE we have more Dunkin' Donuts then THC's (yes, Tim Horton's Coffee has that acronym). We'll take your Tim's if you guys take back all that D Donut's... :D

    I loves me some church basement coffee. Gotta have my Timmie's.

    Bruce

    But, but dunkin donuts are real! Not those microwaved ones Tim tries to pull off as legit. See, we gave you the best of the donut world, and in exchange you gave us "we say it's never older than 20 minutes, but sometimes our supervisor isn't looking" coffee. :wuv:
  • 04-03-2009, 11:55 PM
    psycho
    Re: call me cheep but don't these seem a little expensive?
    Well i got mine for $95 US dollars, only the snake. in total with its 20 long gallon enclosure and some accesories about $300 in total
  • 04-04-2009, 12:03 AM
    Bruce Whitehead
    Re: call me cheep but don't these seem a little expensive?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by littleindiangirl View Post
    But, but dunkin donuts are real! Not those microwaved ones Tim tries to pull off as legit.

    I am such a hi-jacker but... my first trip to FLA years back... stopped into a DD.

    "May I have that donut?"

    "That donut?"

    "No, the donut beside the donut with the cockroach on it if you please."

    But you guys have Chock Full 'O' Nuts. I would kill my neighbour for a can of that. Ok, I just need an excuse, but the coffee would be a nice incentive. :wuv:
  • 04-04-2009, 12:11 AM
    waltah!
    Re: call me cheep but don't these seem a little expensive?
    :hijackd: LOL....guess it was sorta my fault:rolleye2:
  • 04-04-2009, 12:19 AM
    gp_dragsandballs
    Re: call me cheep but don't these seem a little expensive?
    I got my ball python for $25.The Local shop always has an abundance of males but females sell for $50-60. Every were else like Petco sells them for $80.
  • 04-04-2009, 01:02 AM
    Superfictious
    Re: call me cheep but don't these seem a little expensive?
    I'm in Ontario, and haven't found normal BPs to be crazy expensive.
    I got my guy, with a 36x18x15 tank, secure awesome lid, giant water bowl, and two pieces of baked hardwood driftwood for $310, about $350 after tax.

    The snake himself was only $90, and from a good breeder within the province. Captive-bred, super tame, eating f/t. I am very happy with him. 8]
  • 04-04-2009, 01:08 AM
    Harley
    Re: call me cheep but don't these seem a little expensive?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Superfictious View Post
    I'm in Ontario, and haven't found normal BPs to be crazy expensive.
    I got my guy, with a 36x18x15 tank, secure awesome lid, giant water bowl, and two pieces of baked hardwood driftwood for $310, about $350 after tax.

    The snake himself was only $90, and from a good breeder within the province. Captive-bred, super tame, eating f/t. I am very happy with him. 8]

    Sounds like a good deal. $350 is about what I spent on my (actually Harley's) exo-terra 36"x18"x18" terrarium and stand. I felt like I got ripped off but the snake seems happy so I am too.
  • 04-04-2009, 04:43 AM
    llovelace
    Re: call me cheep but don't these seem a little expensive?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mike Cavanaugh View Post
    I need to visit canada with a few snakes in tow!

    Lol remember the bust in NY
  • 04-04-2009, 06:43 AM
    frankykeno
    Re: call me cheep but don't these seem a little expensive?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by waltah! View Post
    Yeah, but you guys get Tim Horton's so we'll call it even:D

    I've got two Timmies here in Toledo. :banana:
  • 04-04-2009, 11:06 AM
    Kevin_Hornby
    Re: call me cheep but don't these seem a little expensive?
    I picked up a normal female a few months ago that is 3000+ grams with a 55 gallon tank for $55.
  • 04-04-2009, 06:00 PM
    771subliminal
    Re: call me cheep but don't these seem a little expensive?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by waltah! View Post
    Yeah, but you guys get Tim Horton's so we'll call it even:D

    you cant drive 5 miles around here with out passin a tims
  • 04-04-2009, 06:55 PM
    waltah!
    Re: call me cheep but don't these seem a little expensive?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 771subliminal View Post
    you cant drive 5 miles around here with out passin a tims

    Ok, Mass stinks then! LOL All we have is a DD on every block.
  • 04-04-2009, 07:49 PM
    murray2213
    Re: call me cheep but don't these seem a little expensive?
    I picked up my normal for $55 (CDN) from a local breeder who was recommended from a bunch of pet store employees. This breeder also
    had albino babies for $600. The local pet stores have normals for
    $135-$165 and I seen a pet store with 2 pastels for 350 not sexed.
    IMO the person who posted the CL add is prob looking to make the money
    back he spent on the set up.
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